00:10
Yung Mattro
What is up? I'm Yung Mattro here with WKNC. I have a couple members of D-Town Brass with me today. Tell the people who you are and what you do.
00:22
Bob Pence
My name is Bob. I compose and play reeds in the band.
00:31
Ben Riseling
My name is Ben. I also play reeds in the band.
00:34
Andy Magowan
My name is Andy McGowan. I play keyboards and compose music.
00:41
Yung Mattro
Awesome. How are you guys doing today?
00:44
Bob Pence
Good. Never better.
00:48
Yung Mattro
All right, I'm going to start off with some really basic questions, and then we can get into the weirdest stuff later. First off,
00:56
Andy Magowan
There's no basic questions, only basic answers.
00:59
Yung Mattro
All right. All right. On what are some of your biggest influences? I know in the. The paper you sent me, you referenced Sun Ra and Fela Kuti, and I definitely agree with those two. What are some others that influence your playing, whether on, like, a personal level or as, like, the whole band?
01:17
Andy Magowan
I would say, for me, personally, music of Don Van Vliet, Captain Beefheart, and also Charles Mingus.
01:25
Bob Pence
And,
01:27
Andy Magowan
Yeah, that's probably most of mine.
01:32
Bob Pence
I mean, we would agree with that.
01:34
Ben Riseling
Yeah, 100%.
01:37
Bob Pence
We have tons of influences all over the place. Yeah.
01:40
Ben Riseling
There's a lot of us in the band, so we bring a lot of different influences in. A lot of us play in a lot of other bands, so we're bringing a lot of different flavors in to every song.
01:50
Bob Pence
But Sunrise was a fortuitous influence because we're, you know, we've all listened to the music and worship the man. The. The man. To call him a man, the God more than a man, the deity, Sun Ra the Neptunian, you know, and then. And then we. See. That's what I was saying about repeating. But, you know, you should tell a story about meeting Ken.
02:17
Andy Magowan
Yeah. So one of our members actually played with Sun Ra. Yeah, yeah.
02:21
Yung Mattro
Ken in Space is the place.
02:23
Andy Magowan
That's correct. Yeah.
02:24
Bob Pence
This guy did his research. He did. Thank you, Matt.
02:28
Andy Magowan
So, yeah, it's been great to, you know, sort of hear stories of how Sun Ra operated and pick his brain about that sort of stuff.
02:36
Bob Pence
I realized.
02:37
Andy Magowan
I was thinking about it today. I think playing with Sun Ra is what could be described as, like, a totalizing experience. Experience where, like, his everything about him is. His art is so overwhelming, his creativity, his philosophy, his way of looking at life, that I think he's one of those people that just spend some time with him. And you're never the same after that.
02:56
Ben Riseling
Yeah, yeah, you're always.
02:59
Bob Pence
And that's what we're trying to do with this band. Yeah.
03:01
Andy Magowan
That's why I keep all 14 other members in a house that I own. And they're not allowed to go out except to shoplift food for me. And I feed them one cup of soybeans per day.
03:14
Bob Pence
We're allowed to dumpster dive once a week.
03:16
Andy Magowan
Yes. And then they get up at about 7 in the morning. I usually wake them up with a gong and they rehearse.
03:23
Bob Pence
We meditate first until they collapse. We have an hour meditation session and then we rehearse until everybody collapses.
03:30
Yung Mattro
Course meditation. Yeah.
03:31
Ben Riseling
Yeah, but not at the same time. We have to meditate while other people are playing, kind of doing their dishes around us.
03:37
Bob Pence
It's awkward.
03:37
Andy Magowan
There's a. Yeah, there's a. There's a program involved, though.
03:41
Yung Mattro
Do any of you actually live together? No.
03:44
Andy Magowan
No.
03:44
Yung Mattro
Okay.
03:44
Bob Pence
Okay.
03:45
Yung Mattro
I've heard of bands that do stuff like that, but.
03:50
Andy Magowan
I was like, in my 20s, and it's hit or miss, believe me.
03:54
Ben Riseling
There are 15 people in the band, so that'd be a big house.
03:57
Bob Pence
Well, you know, the orchestra would do that kind of thing.
04:01
Ben Riseling
That's true.
04:01
Bob Pence
That's what they do. That's probably why he asked.
04:03
Andy Magowan
I'm gonna pick a reality show where all 15 of us and whatever family members we have that we currently all have to live on a compound together. And all the hilarious hijinks and arguments that would ensue.
04:14
Bob Pence
Or just awesome music, or just.
04:17
Yung Mattro
The music will only get better. You can only influence yourselves.
04:20
Andy Magowan
Yes.
04:22
Bob Pence
Well, ideally we'd have the Internet still, Right? That's true. Cut off from the. Now there's a premise. Yeah. Cut off from the Internet.
04:32
Ben Riseling
Oh, man, I forgot what your question was.
04:35
Andy Magowan
Your question was, what are our influences?
04:36
Ben Riseling
We.
04:36
Bob Pence
Sorry, we.
04:37
Andy Magowan
We do tend to.
04:38
Bob Pence
True. And. And we talked about soundtrack music before. We, you know, sound crime, jazz, I like to call it, like that 70s, kind of hard driving, sometimes funky jazz, big band type arranging type stuff.
04:59
Ben Riseling
You know, every soundtrack for every Columbo.
05:02
Bob Pence
Episode, every Columbo soundtrack. We actually. We dissected every single incidental cue in Colombo. Actually, I'm more into the Amazing Spider man cartoon stuff, really, that somebody put on YouTube. Just a. Like a whole edit of. Just music cues from that cartoon.
05:22
Andy Magowan
The first.
05:23
Bob Pence
The first, like, 60s Amazing Spider Man. And it's just hard noir jazz. Honestly, I can't remember who did it. Winsy Jones did stuff like that, but I don't think it was him.
05:39
Andy Magowan
I don't know.
05:42
Yung Mattro
I'm following Spider Man. I don't know what Columbo is. Sorry. Might before my time.
05:47
Andy Magowan
Before our time.
05:47
Ben Riseling
Peter Falk you should check out Colombo.
05:51
Bob Pence
Yeah, okay.
05:52
Andy Magowan
You know, don't.
05:55
Bob Pence
I don't know.
05:59
Yung Mattro
Go ahead.
05:59
Ben Riseling
We all have our influences. Now you go ahead. What's the next question?
06:03
Bob Pence
Okay.
06:03
Yung Mattro
I. I've been to Durham a couple times, but I've never seen any local jazz shows ever. What's the jazz scene like in Durham or the Triangle? If you've gone out of it enough,
06:15
Bob Pence
You might be going on the assumption that we're jazz musicians.
06:19
Andy Magowan
Yeah, we're. I would say that we're jazz adjacent.
06:23
Ben Riseling
We play jazz music, but they wouldn't say where we play in jazz clubs or jazz shows.
06:29
Yung Mattro
It doesn't need to be clubs. It's any show that has that type of music, whether it's jazz, funk, big band.
06:35
Andy Magowan
There was a club here in Durham called Sharp 9. Is that still a thing?
06:38
Bob Pence
Sharp 9?
06:38
Andy Magowan
It's not.
06:39
Bob Pence
We never, we never played there. We did. Do we play the Shed?
06:43
Andy Magowan
Yeah.
06:43
Bob Pence
Did we play the Shed? I played. I played the Shed a couple times. I'm. I'm. You know, I've got my jazz connections. Sometimes they'll let me play with them.
06:52
Ben Riseling
There was a place called Top of the Town that used to have.
06:55
Andy Magowan
That's no longer out there.
06:56
Bob Pence
I don't know that place. But yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. Of course now, you know, it's been almost a year of nothing, so who knows what the scene is like.
07:04
Yung Mattro
Yeah, seriously.
07:05
Andy Magowan
We've tended to play like your. Your rock clubs and indie rock scene type things just because that's kind of the world that a lot of us came out of. I think that, you know, our thing is huge, physically huge. Like just takes up a lot of space and sonically would tend to overwhelm your average jazz club.
07:26
Bob Pence
Also, if you got like jazz cats hanging out, like being like, you know, trying to see if somebody can play the changes or whatever, they might be disappointed.
07:37
Yung Mattro
Yeah, we don't need any jazz purists or like smoky cocktail lounges. I just need to know what. Like, I want to get into the scene a little bit more. Want to hear about it, you know?
07:47
Bob Pence
Yeah, well, it's. It got. The Shed was a really great spot and then it closed down before the lockdown, actually.
07:54
Ben Riseling
Sharp 9 still does stuff.
07:56
Bob Pence
Sharp 9.
07:57
Ben Riseling
I know Mark. Mark Wells still does stuff.
07:59
Bob Pence
Oh, yeah, Mark. Mark plays in Raleigh a lot with Peter Lamb. Peter Lamb is great. He's an awesome tenor sax. Yeah.
08:06
Ben Riseling
Peter Lamb and the Wolves.
08:08
Bob Pence
Al Strong was. Is the guy. I think. I think does Al. I think Al lives in Durham.
08:13
Ben Riseling
I Think he does.
08:14
Yung Mattro
He's in.
08:14
Ben Riseling
He does stuff.
08:15
Bob Pence
He's one of the organizers of Art of Cool and he's a great trumpet player. He used to play with Peter Lamb a bunch and you know I kind of know those guys so I've played with them a couple of times.
08:24
Ben Riseling
But Mark Wells teaches my son.
08:30
Bob Pence
So there's you know there's jazz players. Scott Sawyer is a guitar player I took some lessons from. I don't know but oh, who's the piano player though? That guy kills. He's treat. He used to do like a. Like a jam open jam at the Shed.
08:46
Ben Riseling
Oh that guy Ernest or Sterling, piano player. The guy who goes around town with the parlor piano.
08:53
Bob Pence
No, I don't know. I don't think so. But he like really just cool player who had a trio that would play the all the time. I'm sure he still lives in Durham. Scraping. I can't think of his name right now. It's like his initials. Initials are eh.
09:08
Andy Magowan
I think there's.
09:09
Ben Riseling
I mean there's a whole jazz scene that seems to come out of Central. Central's jazz program and that's about all we know.
09:20
Bob Pence
Well and then there's the like Steve Coles who plays with us baritone sax does like some more trick trad jazz kind of New Orleans type stuff like what is it, the sidecar Social club.
09:36
Andy Magowan
And I think one of our trombone players is a pretty accomplished jazz musician.
09:40
Bob Pence
Danny, Danny Gruen is. Is a really good player and I.
09:44
Andy Magowan
Think he plays with.
09:46
Ben Riseling
He plays with several national tourists here.
09:48
Bob Pence
He plays with. With Catherine Whale.
09:54
Yung Mattro
Think back because I know it's been at least about a year but do you guys have any crazy stories about shows and things that happen at them.
10:03
Andy Magowan
Called the Pluto Span story?
10:05
Bob Pence
Oh yes, yes, of course. What? Why not?
10:11
Ben Riseling
They're going to love that. Some very enjoyable shows with the Budos band.
10:15
Bob Pence
We've played with the Budos band twice.
10:17
Ben Riseling
They're lovely people. Really actually super lovely people. We played. We played some Star wars theme music for a wedding.
10:25
Bob Pence
Yeah, that's right.
10:28
Ben Riseling
We surprised everybody at the wedding playing, all 15 of us on a balcony playing down. It was like the March. The Imperial March. Imperial March.
10:40
Bob Pence
I don't even remember that.
10:41
Yung Mattro
I don't remember.
10:42
Ben Riseling
It was at the planetarium. Yeah, in Chapel Hill.
10:45
Andy Magowan
They had, they had. It was a whole science fiction themed wedding.
10:48
Bob Pence
I remember being at the Planetary.
10:50
Andy Magowan
Extremely nerdy folks and they had like a Pan Galactic gargle blaster drink.
10:54
Bob Pence
Was that the same. Is that the one I hooked us up with Adrian Lykin.
10:57
Ben Riseling
Yes, yes.
10:58
Bob Pence
And then we also played the Reception. Yeah.
11:13
Yung Mattro
You're telling me you had those sonnets back in 2016.
11:17
Bob Pence
Say it again.
11:18
Yung Mattro
You didn't have those songs back in 2016?
11:20
Bob Pence
Yeah, yeah.
11:21
Andy Magowan
I wrote most of those around 2014. 2015.
11:24
Yung Mattro
What? And didn't get released until 2020. That's crazy.
11:29
Andy Magowan
We move it at our own rate, you know, it's just partly because there's so many people in the group and then a lot of us have like middle aged lives with kids and jobs and other bands.
11:40
Bob Pence
Dude.
11:41
Ben Riseling
Yeah, that makes sense. It's hard to fit it all in.
11:45
Yung Mattro
Yeah. What are some other bands that members are in?
11:52
Bob Pence
So many. So many. Wig Report. Ben's in Wig Report. Ben here. You had Malt Swagger.
11:59
Andy Magowan
I called Malt Swagger for many years. Which continues to exist in some form or another. Like we're actually trading songs back and forth now to try to write some stuff.
12:09
Bob Pence
Cool.
12:09
Andy Magowan
And I have this other project that I call Soda Water Sea that I've.
12:12
Bob Pence
Been working on an album for. Oh yeah? Oh yeah? What's that? Oh, that's. And Bob, what do you.
12:19
Andy Magowan
What else do you do?
12:21
Bob Pence
I like try to play in parking decks whenever I can since the. Since the lockdown. That's like my go to is like getting, you know, I'll get like one or two other people, usually just one other person. Hoop musician. And we'll hit a parking deck and live stream. But I've been in tons.
12:40
Andy Magowan
Our rhythm section is Weekend.
12:43
Bob Pence
Yeah, the weekend is. Our rhythm section is the rhythm section for the weekend.
12:47
Ben Riseling
And members of Came up on Vacant.
12:49
Bob Pence
Members of Eerie Choir. I play. I played one of their records. But yeah, we've got White Octave. Robert, our drummer was the White Octave drummer. That's kind of a, you know, respected local band.
13:04
Ben Riseling
We've all been in bands for. For years. Lots of bands in lots of towns.
13:09
Bob Pence
So many bands.
13:11
Ben Riseling
Yeah. And still many bands and still are.
13:19
Yung Mattro
I was going to ask if you guys were on hiatus because you have releases from 2013 as release from 2020, but I guess if you were writing songs throughout that time, does it really count as hiatus?
13:30
Andy Magowan
No, were never on hiatus. Okay. We operate like we don't. It's not a poker club. We don't, you know, we don't just meet every week just to have fun. It's like when there's something to do, we do it. Music that's been written that we want to put together, we do it.
13:47
Bob Pence
But we've like, this is the first year that we haven't. Well, we did. We did something early in 2020.
13:53
Yung Mattro
We have.
13:54
Bob Pence
We have four.
13:55
Ben Riseling
This is our fourth album, and we have a fifth that's recorded that's coming out this summer.
14:01
Yung Mattro
Okay, good.
14:02
Andy Magowan
Recorded on the same day as the. The one you just heard.
14:05
Ben Riseling
Yeah. We recorded two albums on the same day.
14:07
Yung Mattro
That's crazy. Oh, no.
14:10
Bob Pence
I thought it should have been a double album.
14:12
Ben Riseling
Well, considering there are 15 of us and we. And we record live.
14:16
Bob Pence
Okay.
14:17
Yung Mattro
Okay.
14:19
Andy Magowan
Yeah. I think it's impressive.
14:21
Ben Riseling
That was a good day.
14:22
Yung Mattro
Yeah. How many takes does that take?
14:27
Bob Pence
We never do more than two takes for anything, do we?
14:30
Andy Magowan
Maybe occasionally. Maybe three, but usually one or two.
14:32
Ben Riseling
You can't really.
14:33
Bob Pence
And it's always the second take because. Because if the first take is, like, half, go with that. Right.
14:44
Yung Mattro
I thought the music was always so well in sync. That's impressive.
14:47
Andy Magowan
You know, having a really crackerjack rhythm section makes everything a lot easier for everybody. Makes everybody sound way better than they are.
14:55
Ben Riseling
Yeah, they're so good.
14:59
Bob Pence
I've long had a notion that I should always play with musicians who are better than myself. So even if I suck that night, you know, they can carry my.
15:12
Andy Magowan
It's like. It's like being like the third smartest kid in the class.
15:16
Bob Pence
It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
15:18
Yung Mattro
It's enough to push you forward with so many people. What's the. What's the writing process like? Sometimes.
15:29
Andy Magowan
So usually Bob and I are. Do the bulk of the composition. We tend to work independently of each other. My process involves trying to come up with an idea, find an idea, and then you develop it and add some stuff to it. And then you walk away from it for a while, and then you come back to it and listen to it again and add some other stuff, maybe.
15:55
Bob Pence
In an altered state.
15:56
Andy Magowan
Yeah. And then sometimes you just scrap entire versions of it. Start over. But then. So you usually end up with, like, a demo recording. And I'll. Then I'll sit there and write all the parts out for everybody, one by one. And then we get everybody together and try to work it up.
16:15
Bob Pence
And we have a rule in the band that you have to actually write the charts by hand.
16:19
Yung Mattro
Oh, no.
16:21
Bob Pence
We don't really mean. And Andy do that.
16:23
Andy Magowan
We're just Luddite. I can't figure out the program.
16:28
Yung Mattro
Musescore is free.
16:31
Andy Magowan
What's that?
16:31
Yung Mattro
Muse Score.
16:33
Andy Magowan
Musescore.
16:34
Yung Mattro
Muse Score.
16:36
Andy Magowan
It doesn't matter. Like, you could have any program in the world, but I just get frustrated clicking buttons. Yeah, it could Be the Generation X thing.
16:44
Bob Pence
It's the one actually creative thing we do, so we gotta do it.
16:49
Andy Magowan
That's right.
16:50
Bob Pence
And yeah, we have other composers too, is what is the other point? There's like several people in the band who've written different, who've written, you know, cuts for the band. And we all work independently. We bring them to the band, everybody practice them, you know.
17:06
Andy Magowan
Yeah, usually there's like, well, they'll.
17:09
Ben Riseling
Be out writing songs and then we'll get together, we'll have two. They're like, okay, we got enough songs, can we all get together? And there'll be two, two rehearsals once a week where we'll get the music for the first time. Sometimes it'll be complete, sometimes it'll be these little kernels of things like, hey guys, I don't know what this is gonna sound like with this and this. Let's try this.
17:34
Bob Pence
Are you criticizing my composing technique?
17:36
Ben Riseling
No, I'm just saying it's very organic and you know, sometimes not. Usually it's full Bono move. We'll rehearse it one leap, go home and practice. Or not come back the next week again, practice it as a band. And then the third week we come back and record it. And then we go our ways for about four months or so.
17:57
Bob Pence
Well, then we end up playing it on a bunch of shows and then we have a good version of it, but it's already recorded. Yeah.
18:06
Ben Riseling
Yeah. By the time we get about six or seven new songs, book a gig, and then we'll play it live and then we'll get around to recording and then. And with a 15 piece band that meets three to four times a year in little spurts, that's a pretty good process. And so that's. That's what I think you're talking about. Our glacial baseline. That's as fast as we can move.
18:30
Bob Pence
But this is our fourth album. One of them on vinyl, the other's on cd. Right. And we've been around, what? Well, every four. Every three years. Eleven years. So that's not too bad. Actually, no longer.
18:45
Andy Magowan
I'm sorry.
18:46
Bob Pence
Yeah.
18:47
Andy Magowan
Thirteen years.
18:48
Bob Pence
Yeah. So it's sort of like every three years we come out with a record. It's not too bad.
18:54
Andy Magowan
We're like mold or herpes or something. Come back very hard to get rid of. We grow slowly.
19:00
Bob Pence
Nobody wants you there. Yeah, nobody asked for the. That.
19:07
Yung Mattro
Something about the way that you drop two. Is this two albums in the same month in 2013? It just seems like insane process. And then A huge break and then insane process. But I guess it makes sense to sort of like years worth of occasional efforts going all at once. Right.
19:25
Andy Magowan
The one. The one that's. It's like an EP that called, er. That is a bunch of early recordings that were recorded over the course of our first year in existence.
19:35
Bob Pence
It's earlier stuff.
19:36
Andy Magowan
Yes. Like over maybe a year and three months. And then we did like sort of a more proper album and then.
19:43
Bob Pence
Yeah, you don't even count that one as an album, but I think it's a great album.
19:46
Andy Magowan
Yeah, I like it a lot. So at the time I released that. What's. What you would call the second one, I had the first one already, so I just put them both out at the same time.
20:01
Yung Mattro
All right. I have a couple questions about the sort of mythos that surrounds this band, especially. Especially on Demiurge. I can't tell from the voices. Who does the. The voiceovers?
20:12
Bob Pence
The.
20:12
Yung Mattro
The monologues you do. Okay.
20:16
Andy Magowan
I built a special machine for this recording to. I wanted to make my voice just sort of like a might go whiz on the sound. Like, I wanted it to sound like, not be overdubbed, be a part performed live with the group and not just be straight into a microphone and recorded really nicely. So I pledged together like this giant speaker array with like, these. A mix of like, really nice speakers and like crummy plastic outdoor PA speakers and stuff like that I drilled. Bolted together. And so that's. That's how we did the voice for that. But yeah, I wrote all those words and the pieces that accompany them.
21:00
Yung Mattro
Right. No need to explain the deeper meanings. That's up to the listener. But I have a couple weird niche questions about it. Who is Daniel Paul Schreiber? The beekeeper general of Retroactive Dynamic Zinc.
21:16
Andy Magowan
Oh, that's. That's just some liner note fun that we had.
21:20
Yung Mattro
Okay.
21:21
Andy Magowan
Bob wrote that stuff? Yeah. Well, I mean, I say he wrote it, but he does channel things from various timelines of the future and through, you know, various. We'll call them entities, beings, if you will.
21:36
Ben Riseling
He's in touch with several astral planes. Bob. Here comes Bob. He's back now from his.
21:41
Andy Magowan
Ben.
21:42
Yung Mattro
Who.
21:42
Andy Magowan
Who is Bob Schreiber? General beekeeping Judge Schreiber.
21:48
Yung Mattro
Daniel Paul Schreiber.
21:49
Bob Pence
Daniel Paul. Who is he? You didn't Google? Why? Why are you asking? Oh, did you guys bring it up? Interested?
21:57
Yung Mattro
No, I'm bringing it up.
21:59
Andy Magowan
He's reading your line of notes, man.
22:00
Yung Mattro
I'm taking deep dives.
22:02
Bob Pence
Oh, Daniel. Daniel Paul Schreiber. He's a legend. He's. He. He's like a religious leader. And the Origin of Freud's. One of Freud's case studies on schizophrenia. He wrote Memoirs of My Nervous Illness back in. Around the turn of the century. The last. The previous turn of the century, like 120 years ago.
22:26
Ben Riseling
So it's a big influence now.
22:28
Bob Pence
We were talking earlier also about how when we opened for that New Orleans Rebirth brass band, big New Orleans, like, party band. Right? Yeah, They're. They're the junk. They're. They're. And we opened for them at Motorco a couple of years ago, whenever that was. And I just remember thinking, suddenly realizing when were playing that show how. How much were just like, bad vibe, like bringers. We're just like.
23:00
Ben Riseling
Then we throw into dance, and we did bring a big bag of beads,
23:04
Andy Magowan
So it was hard.
23:05
Bob Pence
Did we have beads?
23:06
Ben Riseling
Yeah, we had beads.
23:07
Andy Magowan
At some point, after one of my. One of my musical rantings, somebody from the crowd said, I didn't come here to be preached at.
23:16
Ben Riseling
Yeah, that was great.
23:17
Bob Pence
Well, you. You know, you were preaching. Sure.
23:20
Andy Magowan
True.
23:22
Bob Pence
And nobody came here to be preached at. Nobody. Nobody ever came anywhere to be. Unless they were going to church.
23:28
Andy Magowan
Most people don't know why they go anywhere.
23:30
Bob Pence
If you're going to church, you came there to be preached. He's like, this ain't Sunday morning. That's right.
23:37
Andy Magowan
I didn't come here to be preached at.
23:38
Bob Pence
That's right.
23:41
Yung Mattro
So you guys have been together for a while. I think you said 11 years. How much has the cast changed, if at all in this time?
23:49
Bob Pence
A little bit.
23:50
Andy Magowan
Just a little bit.
23:50
Bob Pence
Yeah.
23:51
Andy Magowan
I mean, we only had a few members leave.
23:52
Ben Riseling
We've kind of gained just at first.
23:54
Andy Magowan
Yeah, yeah, we gained. We started as 10, and we've just slowly added people over the years.
24:00
Bob Pence
Now we're 15.
24:01
Andy Magowan
Now we're up to. No, we're technically up to 16, if you can count State.
24:06
Yung Mattro
Jill.
24:07
Andy Magowan
No, not Jill.
24:08
Ben Riseling
What's her name?
24:09
Andy Magowan
The saxophone player.
24:11
Bob Pence
Oh,
24:13
Andy Magowan
He only played one show with us, so it's Jamie. Jamie, that's right.
24:16
Bob Pence
Oh, yeah. It's 16.
24:18
Andy Magowan
Might be 15 or 16. It's a little unclear. It's. It's always. The minimum is sort of 13. 13 is a quorum. That's right. But yeah, it's that we haven't really lost anybody. Everybody really enjoys it and. Right.
24:34
Ben Riseling
Yeah. Yeah. It's like a young. It's like a young talent club.
24:38
Yung Mattro
That's impressive. Do you guys have any plans in the future? Do you have anything you want to shout out for the people?
24:47
Andy Magowan
Yeah, we want to shout out our own record. It's called Demiurge. You should totally pay to download it onto your digital device. Don't be a rube and just listen.
24:55
Bob Pence
To it on the services because it's not paid for. It was out of his own pocket anyway.
25:05
Andy Magowan
Yeah, that you should check that out. And then we're have another record hopefully over the summer that were, as we mentioned before, recorded at the same time.
25:11
Bob Pence
It's like a double record kind of.
25:13
Andy Magowan
And we're working on other stuff so hopefully when the pandemic is over we can get back together and start playing again.
25:19
Ben Riseling
When we play again, come see us.
25:21
Bob Pence
Yeah.
25:21
Yung Mattro
Awesome. I look forward to that.
25:24
Andy Magowan
We've been informed that playing a trumpet is like basically a germ cannon.
25:30
Yung Mattro
Yeah, I guess so. Air distribution. Well, thank you for the time today. I really appreciate it.
25:36
Bob Pence
Thanks, Matt. Take care.
25:39
Yung Mattro
Take care.