00:03
DJ Whippopatomus
What's good, Everybody? This is DJ Whippopatomus. Welcome to WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1 Raleigh. We are a student run nonprofit radio station based out of North Carolina State University. Today I am joined by Jooselord and WKNC alumni Iron Mike.
00:23
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, Jooselord.
00:25
DJ Whippopatomus
Hey. Jooselord is set to perform a live album recording at the Pour House on October 8th. And I'm really excited to have you on the show. I've been looking forward to this for a minute now.
00:37
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, man, thanks for having us.
00:38
Jooselord
Yeah, real. I appreciate that.
00:41
DJ Whippopatomus
You already know. I was excited when I got your message, man. Yeah. So let's do a quick intro, let people know who you are. Where are y’all from? What y’all doing?
00:52
Jooselord
I am from Durham, North Carolina. Let's go by way of New York City. Harlem, uptown, you already know. Okay, what was the second question?
01:06
DJ Whippopatomus
What you doing?
01:07
DJ Iron Mike
What do you do?
01:07
Jooselord
Oh, what do I do? I make music. I make music for a living.
01:12
DJ Whippopatomus
Let em know.
01:12
Jooselord
I make music and I'm a dad.
01:15
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, we need that.
01:16
DJ Iron Mike
We need both hip hop dads. Both of us are hip hop dads.
01:20
Jooselord
I'm a rap dad.
01:22
DJ Iron Mike
Rap dad.
01:22
Jooselord
Yeah, rap dad.
01:26
DJ Whippopatomus
What's up with you?
01:27
DJ Iron Mike
Basically old. That's, you know. Yeah, that's what it is. But yeah, man, I'm DJ Iron Mike repping the Bronx uptown. You know what it is.
01:37
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
01:37
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, yurt been here in Raleigh for like the past 10 years though. Ended up down here because of military. Stayed around because, you know, you guys got a good thing going on down here. Ran into this guy, Jooselord. Well, before I worked, before I ran into Jooselord, I was working here at WKNC. Some of the audience still may remember me from local Rap Lunch. I originated that. I see you guys are still running that.
02:00
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, how could they forget, man?
02:02
DJ Iron Mike
I mean, I just appreciate you guys kept it going.
02:04
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, yeah, for sure.
02:05
DJ Iron Mike
I stumbled upon that like on your Instagram. I was like, oh, thank you. But yeah, while I was working here at WKNC, was running around doing a lot of media stuff, doing a lot of press pass stuff.
02:17
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah.
02:17
DJ Iron Mike
Ran into this guy, Jooselord. And you know, of course we had that uptown New York bond.
02:23
DJ Whippopatomus
That's right.
02:24
DJ Iron Mike
His music is crazy. So I was. I got to work with this guy, that's all. And wrote. It's been history.
02:29
DJ Whippopatomus
Where in New York were you from, Joose?
02:31
Jooselord
I'm from Harlem. Okay, from Harlem.
02:33
DJ Whippopatomus
And what part were you from again?
02:34
DJ Iron Mike
Bronx.
02:35
DJ Whippopatomus
Bronx. Bet. Bet. And y’all link y’all meet a Lot of people from New York around here.
02:39
Jooselord
Yes.
02:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
02:41
Jooselord
An insane amount of people from New York.
02:44
DJ Iron Mike
Triangles, like, basically.
02:46
Jooselord
Yeah.
02:46
DJ Whippopatomus
New York is a country.
02:49
DJ Iron Mike
It really is.
02:49
Jooselord
Basically New York, Texas, and California.
02:52
DJ Iron Mike
It's crazy because, like, people who. Who are not from New York, like, you got all these people from New York coming down here. Because people who aren't from New York are moving to New York.
03:01
Jooselord
Yeah.
03:02
DJ Iron Mike
And pushing us out.
03:03
Jooselord
Yeah. Everybody be like, go back. I can't afford it.
03:07
DJ Iron Mike
I wish I could, son.
03:09
Jooselord
You tell your tech genius uncle to leave.
03:11
Jooselord
You got to go back.
03:13
DJ Iron Mike
You tell your cousin Becky to stop opening. Stop opening Starbucks franchises on the block so we can go back.
03:19
Jooselord
Yeah.
03:19
DJ Whippopatomus
Let them know.
03:20
Jooselord
The first white owned bodega.
03:25
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. I'm from Virginia Beach, Norfolk area. And there's a lot of people from New York out there too.
03:29
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah.
03:29
Jooselord
Hiding everywhere.
03:31
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
03:31
DJ Iron Mike
Our homeboy Streety's out there. He's in the Navy, so.
03:33
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, word. That's what's up. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. How did y’all meet? How did that happen?
03:39
Jooselord
Well, I. Well, the first time we met. Met. We did a show at Kings together.
03:47
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
03:49
Jooselord
Remember that?
03:49
DJ Iron Mike
That's right.
03:49
Jooselord
Yeah. The first time we met. Met, we did a show at Kings together. That's right.
03:53
DJ Whippopatomus
When was that?
03:53
DJ Iron Mike
It was in 2017.
03:55
Jooselord
Yeah. It had to be 2017.
03:57
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
03:57
Jooselord
It was like. Like earlier in the year.
03:59
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
04:00
Jooselord
Because later in the year, we. He became our DJ.
04:04
DJ Iron Mike
2017, we linked. I was. I was making. I was rapping stuff I used to do a lot of. Now I do more. Mostly just DJing and producing.
04:12
Jooselord
He can still rap, though.
04:15
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. I was looking for something online. I don't know if I was looking in the wrong places, but. Yeah, I couldn't find in your. In your lyrics anywhere.
04:22
DJ Iron Mike
I mean, I'm only. I've only got one every. I did the tortured artist thing and I took all my. But the only thing I actually still have up was the first song to be juiced.
04:34
DJ Whippopatomus
Yep. Oh, okay.
04:34
DJ Iron Mike
Recorded together. We weren't working together yet, but I was working on a song, and it's called Cops Come.
04:40
Jooselord
Yep.
04:41
DJ Iron Mike
And it was, you know, it's you bump.
04:43
DJ Whippopatomus
Louder.
04:43
DJ Iron Mike
Cops. And I was like, damn. I'd seen Joose live, you know, Just saw him, you know, and I was like, this guy. I need to reach out to this dude and see if we can get something going. And that. That's, you know, and any. Any.
04:55
Jooselord
He reached out to me and he hit me up and he was like, yo, I'm at the studio right now. You ready? And I was like, yeah. And I wrote it real quick.
05:05
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah. Cause I had.
05:07
Jooselord
Yeah. I was like, yo, I'm not ready. I was still living. I was living with my ex girlfriend at the time. I was like, yo, I ain't had no car. Like, yo, I'm about to write this real quick. I got like two hours.
05:18
DJ Whippopatomus
Can you.
05:19
Jooselord
Can you run me to the studio? And it's one of my favorite songs. We did a very good song together. It was very good. And people love it too.
05:27
DJ Whippopatomus
I'm gonna look for that.
05:28
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, it was when it. When it dropped, like, people. People have always requested us to play. It was good word. It was like one of those things. I'm like my worst critic.
05:35
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
05:35
DJ Iron Mike
You know, so like, every time I hear it, I hear something like how you could have. You could have flowed that a little better.
05:39
Jooselord
Yeah.
05:39
DJ Iron Mike
But people are always coming back. Like, man, you need to do you and Juicy to make money.
05:43
Jooselord
That's how old music is, though. You always listen back and be like, I sound like a whip, right? I should. I should have changed the ad lib. I should have. It's always gonna be. I should have. That's why you just gotta put it out. Just say it's out there.
05:56
DJ Whippopatomus
Just go, yeah, let God do it. That's truth right there. Yeah. So, Joose, I really can't wait for your performance. I've yet to see you live.
06:04
Jooselord
Oh, man, I'm gonna be out there.
06:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, I'm trying to get a. A press pass for. For yalls set on. On the 8th.
06:13
Jooselord
Yeah, I can get you one.
06:14
DJ Whippopatomus
Word. Yeah, I can get you one. I applied to the station. I haven't heard back from them yet though.
06:17
Jooselord
But yeah, I am the press pass.
06:22
DJ Iron Mike
Look at me.
06:23
Jooselord
Look at me.
06:23
DJ Whippopatomus
I.
06:24
DJ Iron Mike
Your press pass now.
06:25
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. To all the listeners out there. Keep a lookout for my blog that I'll be writing about Jooselord's event. So, yeah, I love the right recaps about local events and put people on, you know.
06:37
Jooselord
I can't believe it's gonna be your first time.
06:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, bro, I. I just moved out here a few years ago. Coming out here.
06:43
Jooselord
Oh, no, I'm just. I'm just saying, like, you. You picking a special.
06:47
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
06:47
Jooselord
You picking a hell of a first show.
06:49
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah.
06:49
DJ Whippopatomus
The bill is stacked.
06:51
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah.
06:51
Jooselord
Those are mine.
06:52
DJ Iron Mike
That's not disappointment. We're like happy for that.
06:55
Jooselord
Yeah.
06:55
DJ Iron Mike
Cause it's like.
06:56
Jooselord
Yeah, yeah. Like. Like anybody. I've already. Like anybody. I've already put it out there. Like anybody who hasn't seen me before this Will probably be the time to come.
07:05
DJ Whippopatomus
Yes. All right.
07:06
Jooselord
This is the time to come.
07:07
DJ Whippopatomus
All right.
07:07
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, man. Today's price is not tomorrow's price.
07:10
Jooselord
Now it's not.
07:13
DJ Iron Mike
But it's true though.
07:14
Jooselord
It's not. Look, look.
07:15
Jooselord
It's not though.
07:16
Jooselord
It's not. It's not.
07:19
DJ Whippopatomus
Just curious for some of the younger DJs out here. Is that 21 plus?
07:23
Jooselord
Yes.
07:24
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
07:24
Jooselord
Bet it is.
07:25
DJ Whippopatomus
Good to know.
07:25
Jooselord
Yes, yes. Everything at Pour House is 21 plus.
07:28
DJ Whippopatomus
That's what I was thinking.
07:29
Jooselord
If it wasn't. To be honest, I wish it wasn't. Cause I really be wanting to like, I want everybody to be in there. I got five year olds ready to, you know, go crazy, whoever it is, when it get busy. Let's go.
07:40
DJ Whippopatomus
Yes, sir.
07:41
Jooselord
But I don't like putting parameters and putting boxes and saying you can't enjoy this unless that, you know what I mean?
07:47
DJ Iron Mike
That was actually something were talking about earlier this summer because we played a Juneteenth show in Durham.
07:54
Jooselord
Oh, yeah.
07:54
DJ Iron Mike
Which was like, yeah, what? We got kicked off the stage, but it was crazy. But what was cool is that like, we're used to like playing at like clubs where it's like 21 plus, you know what I mean? Like, we know our fans, like, our fans are in that range and in that age range. We know they love us with us. But like we saw like little 14 year old, 16 year old kids like going hard and running up to this mother, like, you know, like, oh, too slow, too crazy. Like I want to be like you. And it was like, yo, it was,
08:24
Jooselord
It was eight year olds. It was, it was all kind of. It was a lot of kids. I took, I probably took 100 pictures that day because it was a lot of people out there.
08:32
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. What was this?
08:34
Jooselord
Juneteenth. It was Juneteenth. Downtown Durham. I played a festival. The Juneteenth festival in downtown.
08:41
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, got you. Got you bet that's lit.
08:44
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, it was nice. And they booked us. Not ever. Like, I guess the person who booked us never actually gone to a show.
08:52
Jooselord
She said she did though.
08:54
DJ Iron Mike
She said she did.
08:55
Jooselord
I mean, I even pulled her to the side like, hey, listen. Yeah, yo, come here. Like right before I went on, I'm like, yo, come here. She's like, okay. I'm like, listen, I'm a curse. I'll be cursing, yo. I'd be cursing. And she was like, oh, I know. I'm like, no, no, listen, I be cursing. Like, I must say Every curse word. And she was like, all right.
09:19
DJ Whippopatomus
And then some.
09:20
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah.
09:20
Jooselord
And then, yo, she was rocking with it. She was. Everything was good. And then it just wasn't good no more. It was just like. It was just like. Okay, that's enough. I try to tell you. You know what I'm saying? But. But to be honest, the people wasn't having it.
09:34
DJ Whippopatomus
They.
09:34
Jooselord
They got. The people got really, really upset about that. Yeah, it was like I kind of had to stop, like, a situation. Like, it was. It was almost like a. Like a NWA riot type, like, actually, like. Yeah, they actually almost. Because, you know, if she was going to stop us, she probably should have stopped us before she booked. Yeah, yeah, before she booked me, but. But, like, maybe one or two. You waited till, like, the end when everything was, like, boiling.
10:06
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah. The whole. The whole city, like, all of Durham and a lot of Raleigh came out for us. Yeah, it was. There was so much love in the building. It was crazy in the building. In the streets. That's actually better.
10:17
Jooselord
Yeah, it was love in the streets,
10:20
DJ Iron Mike
But there was so many. We had so many people here. And, like, it was crazy because, like, the. The performance before us was like these old heads.
10:27
Jooselord
Yeah.
10:27
DJ Iron Mike
Like church uncles who.
10:29
Jooselord
Yeah, no, they wasn't. N. They was. They was. They was humping on the. On the mic stands and talking about how he was going to give it to you slow and all of that. And nobody stopped them. Nobody stopped them because they was old and they was talking, but they was talk. I ain't say nothing like that.
10:47
Jooselord
All.
10:47
Jooselord
None of my stuff was that raunchy.
10:49
DJ Iron Mike
Nah, we was just talking about the police on Juneteenth.
10:53
Jooselord
This what we supposed to be doing.
10:55
DJ Iron Mike
For real.
10:58
DJ Whippopatomus
That's crazy. When's the last time y’all performed?
11:00
DJ Iron Mike
What, like a week? A couple months?
11:02
Jooselord
Yeah, a couple weeks ago. Yeah. We did a hostage gay party. Gay party. And it went crazy.
11:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
11:07
Jooselord
Hey, look, all kind of parties. Gay parties, straight parties. I'm with it all. Yeah.
11:13
DJ Whippopatomus
You were actually one of the first artists that I discovered out of Durham through. Through Indie Week. Yeah. Like, I moved here and I didn't know nobody because I came straight from the army. I. I really can't relate to a lot of students out here.
11:25
Jooselord
That's what happens. That's what happened. That's literally what happened.
11:29
DJ Whippopatomus
I was looking into Iron Mike. Like, I listened to a few of your podcasts. I listened to one that you did with the station. I forget what it was called. But you were talking about your experience. I was like, damn, I Feel that, bro. You were talking about how, like, I think this is from your. Your current podcast. So you're talking about how, like, kids just didn't get you and, like, your attitude and you, like, you just. You're on your grown man business and they just didn't know about it.
11:50
Jooselord
Oh, yeah, you said that. Yeah, you definitely said that. That was on the first episode.
11:59
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. It's funny because, like, the. All the guys on that podcast are guys that I met here at NC State, and I was running around doing stuff, and we became friends.
12:10
DJ Whippopatomus
That's tough.
12:11
DJ Iron Mike
But, like, they were, like, the ones that could handle me. Like, yeah, they could handle my. My direct nature. Like, you know, there's. There's some people who, like, you know, they just kind of keep it, like, oh, what's up, man?
12:21
Jooselord
And they keep it moving.
12:23
DJ Iron Mike
Keep in touch. Those guys.
12:24
Jooselord
That guy's intense.
12:26
DJ Iron Mike
Sk. Sk. The novelist, Lord Drock and Cosmo. Like, those guys, like, they, like, we. We did a lot together, though. Like, I was. You know, I could be an sometimes, but, like, we. We actually did a lot together too, though, so that's why the love is still.
12:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Yeah, that's dope. I'm trying to repeat that, man. Like I said, I'm taking notes, especially trying to. I've been looking into, like, your blog post. Like, you're a really good writer. I see why you're. You were writing for Indie Week. And. Yeah, I'm. I'm trying to repeat that, bro. I'm trying to run it up for the. Especially for the hip hop section out here.
12:55
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, man, I like that. I'm a legend of sorts.
12:59
Jooselord
Yeah, yeah, of course.
13:03
DJ Whippopatomus
James, you got to interview him. I'm like, all right.
13:06
DJ Iron Mike
Shout outs to Jamie.
13:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, for real.
13:09
DJ Iron Mike
But, yeah, I actually. I reached out to you because I saw that you were running Joose's tracks on your show.
13:17
Jooselord
So, yeah, hit me up and you know me. Took me forever to answer. Hey, you not the only one that's. I don't know why it's like that. I think it. I think it'd just be anxiety. Like, new people. I'd be like, I don't know this.
13:30
DJ Whippopatomus
No, no doubt, no doubt. And at least you're aware of that, bro.
13:33
Jooselord
And I just. Yeah, I know. I know it's my anxiety. And I try and, you know, but then. Then, you know, I start. Because I look at it. I'll look at it to everybody listening. I do look at your messages and, like, the messages, you get from people that's not your friends. Yeah, I look at them. I ain't gonna lie and say I don't. I look at them. I just don't answer. Yo, my. My anxiety be going crazy, and I just be like, I feel that maybe next. Maybe next, maybe tomorrow. And then tomorrow turn the next week. And then you feel bad, like, I can't answer this person a week later, like, where were you?
14:08
DJ Iron Mike
You know, that's one of the funny things. That's why we're, like, really good friends. Like, besides being, like, business partners, music like, me, this is, like, my best friend, yo.
14:15
DJ Whippopatomus
That's what's up.
14:15
DJ Iron Mike
And, like, we're exactly the same. Like, to the naked eye, like, we look, like, really extroverted. Like, you know, I want to be out with people and shit, but, like, our social battery drains.
14:24
Jooselord
Like, yeah, yep, I'm out there. I get off stage. I was like, man, that was crazy. I was with the people. And then somebody's like, hey, can I have a hug? And I'm like, yeah, but I'm have to go after this woman. That one hug.
14:41
Jooselord
Be like, you, you, you.
14:44
DJ Iron Mike
I need to go home and play PlayStation.
14:45
Jooselord
Yeah, time to go.
14:47
Jooselord
Time to go play War Zone here.
14:49
DJ Whippopatomus
I'm glad I'm not alone in that. Cause I literally be feeling the same way. Like, yeah, like, I love what I'm doing at the station, but just sometimes, like, I don't feel like talking to people.
14:56
DJ Iron Mike
Y. Nothing wrong.
14:58
Jooselord
Yep.
14:58
DJ Iron Mike
Nothing wrong with it.
14:59
DJ Whippopatomus
Yep.
14:59
Jooselord
My, my. It's to the point now where, like, my actual, real friends know, like, you might text him. You might not get a text back for three days. He gonna see you, and he gonna talk to you like nothing happened. And he gonna hit you with the. I saw your text, man. I was going.
15:17
DJ Whippopatomus
Everyone hit Joose back. Hit him back. It's just anxiety, bro.
15:21
Jooselord
Yeah. I, I. I don't hate you. If you would know.
15:29
DJ Iron Mike
It's like that part in the office. The attack is leaving. He's like, hey, Daryl, friend. People on Facebook, they know you're there.
15:40
Jooselord
Yeah. Nope, nope. Lucky I don't press the block button.
15:47
DJ Whippopatomus
All right, so let's. Let's get into the album. Mosh Pit Messiah. That's your most recent album, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:55
Jooselord
You.
15:56
DJ Whippopatomus
You pack a lot of energy into your music, man. Obviously, we've been already talking about it, but that's not all you offer. Your lyrics really hold a lot of content, hold a lot of truth.
16:05
Jooselord
I appreciate you listening because so many People be like, yo, the energy is crazy. And I'll be like, you didn't listen at all.
16:12
DJ Whippopatomus
That's what really sets you apart. Like, there's a lot of, like, I guess, like, punk artists, punk rappers out there that are just based off of the energy and that. That's all they bring. That's cool.
16:21
DJ Iron Mike
Not punk at all.
16:21
Jooselord
Yeah. Cause punk is about the energy. It's about the story. Like, punk is about the story. You know what I mean? So y. You know, they. They put on the. They put on the facade that they are punk. But if you don't have a story, if you're not fighting for nothing, then you not a punk. You just screaming and you just screaming because you like to scream.
16:38
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, I feel that.
16:39
Jooselord
Throwing a tantrum.
16:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Rico Nasty is one of my favorite rappers.
16:41
Jooselord
Love Nico Nasty.
16:42
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah.
16:43
Jooselord
Queen Rico.
16:44
Jooselord
Yes, sir.
16:45
Jooselord
All hell, Queen Rico. Yeah, listen, I follow, like, maybe five famous people on Instagram. Definitely follow Rico. Yo, Queen Rico.
16:56
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, for a minute now, bro, I've been. Yeah, she gives me energy too. I named my dog after Rico Nasty, actually. And she act crazy too.
17:04
DJ Iron Mike
What kind of dog is it?
17:05
DJ Whippopatomus
She's a German shepherd boxer mix.
17:07
DJ Iron Mike
Oh, man, that's not a good dog to have.
17:12
DJ Whippopatomus
She's like goofy crazy. Like. Like when I. Sometimes I walk in the house and she don't recognize me, so I try to test her and I run at her and she just dips. She barked and then she did, like,
17:23
Jooselord
I don't want no parts for this.
17:25
DJ Whippopatomus
Or she'll run behind me or somebody else.
17:27
Jooselord
You guys are getting weird.
17:28
DJ Whippopatomus
She's. She's the alert dog. She just talks a lot. A lot of shit. For real. But, yeah. What. What inspired the album art of mosh pit Messiah? That really spoke out to me too.
17:42
Jooselord
The album art is me jumping into, like, a pit of demons. You know what I'm saying? Yo. Yeah, it's like. It's like, you know, I'm in a pit with the demons, you know, getting right with the demons. Because it's like it. You know, I. I just have a lot of people tell me, because I was laughing about this with my friend, because, like, a lot of artists are like, oh, yeah. People tell me you saved my life. And I'd be like, that. Nobody said that to you? Nobody. Watch me, whip. Watch me. That didn't save nobody life, B. You know what I'm saying?
18:14
Jooselord
Not to.
18:14
Jooselord
And I like that song. Not to put it down. But that didn't save nobody life, you know what I'm saying? Nobody Was on the edge. Like, I'mma just do it, yo. I'mma do it. And it was like, watch me nip. Watch me nip. And you was like, yeah, not going to do it no more like, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
18:29
DJ Whippopatomus
I want to record that right now.
18:31
Jooselord
It's not.
18:32
Jooselord
No, that never happened. But a lot of people tell me, like, you know, I help them get through because, you know, I talk about depression, I talk about. I talk about what's going on in the world. I talk about, you know, just all of them. All that stuff that tough people not supposed to talk about. And I got a lot of tough fans, and I got a lot of not tough fans.
18:49
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
18:50
Jooselord
But, you know, at the end of the day, a lot of people need a voice, and they tell me, like, you know, like, you help me, you know, you help me fight my demons. You help me get through things. You help me, you know? And that was a visual representation of that, you know, me jumping off stage with my golden Doc Martens because I got the golden Doc Martens.
19:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
19:08
Jooselord
Because I wouldn't have found Doc Martin is a big part of me, and I wouldn't have found if it wasn't for my people. You know what I'm saying? So the golden Doc Martin is gifted to me by them to jump in there and not only fight my demons, but they demons, too. That's what music is for.
19:21
DJ Whippopatomus
For real. Yeah. You on the Doc Martin game like, you the Doc Martin King, for all I know. I seen.
19:28
Jooselord
That's not hyperbole.
19:29
DJ Whippopatomus
I've seen that YouTube video that. Yeah, that video was clean, bro.
19:34
Jooselord
Thank you.
19:35
DJ Whippopatomus
Yo, how many pairs you got?
19:37
Jooselord
I think 17. Now.
19:39
DJ Whippopatomus
How often they drop.
19:41
Jooselord
They drop. Doc Martin's, like, they dropping it. Yeah, like, once every two weeks or something like that. Yeah. People, it's a. It's a lot of, like. It's a lot of, like, small collabs. Like, Doc Martin got collabs with hello Kitty. Doc Martin got collabs. Yeah. Like, they got collabs with Ninja Turtles. They got collabs with everybody.
19:59
DJ Iron Mike
I got the new Basquiat joint. Yeah. Yeah.
20:01
Jooselord
The new Basquiat joint. Because we both got the. The unknowingly. We both have the same pair. Basquiat.
20:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Doc Martens love Basquiat, man.
20:09
Jooselord
Yeah.
20:10
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, that's dope. So, yeah, you. You have a lot of activism in your. In your lyrics. You speak a lot on mental health. What's your experience around that?
20:21
Jooselord
Well, I am an activist, 100%. I don't believe that anybody Is safe until everybody's safe. You know what I mean?
20:30
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, no doubt.
20:30
Jooselord
I don't believe in, like, sectionally. I don't believe in, like. Nah. Like, everybody gotta fight, and everybody who's the underdog in their fight needs to win that fight. So that's just how I feel about that.
20:40
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
20:42
Jooselord
And when it comes to mental health, like, look, we just was locked in the house. We technically. Technically, we kind of still locked in the house. Let's stop. Things still ain't normal. You know what I mean? So it's like, we still in limbo right now. Like, might go back, might not. We don't know. Everybody dealing with. I was dealing with mental stuff beforehand, and most of the world was especially, like, you know, people in their. People in their, like, mid-30s, down to, like, right now, down to people 14. Because the Internet gonna put you in your head. The Internet could take. You know, the Internet was the best and the worst thing to happen to personal connection with people.
21:19
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. That's truth.
21:20
Jooselord
So, you know, we all deal with it. And I just. I don't feel like not. I feel like straying from talking about it is not giving people, you know, what they deserve from me. You know what I mean? If I'm sad or if I feel like I'm going a little bit crazy, I might as well tell people.
21:37
DJ Whippopatomus
Exactly. And, like, that speaks to so many people, too. It spoke to me. And it's just like, people don't know how to express that themselves. And then you use words that nobody else has, and the combination that you use them in, it's just. Yeah. Like, you're saying, like, you're saving lives.
21:54
Jooselord
I appreciate that.
21:55
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, man.
21:56
DJ Iron Mike
I will say, man, that's one thing. Like, being his DJ is like, you know, sometimes being a DJ can be the thankless job.
22:02
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
22:03
DJ Iron Mike
You come off stage, and everybody's running to this.
22:05
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
22:07
Jooselord
All right.
22:08
DJ Iron Mike
I kept it moving, though. But one of the things that I love, though, about working with Joose is that, like, the connection he has with people. And, like, you know, went. We're talking about, like, people. I'm like, oh, I listen to your music, and I didn't kill myself. And now sometimes that just sounds ridiculous, but, like, with him, I can see that. I can see that really, like, the way people react to his music. And, like, even, like, people who've never even heard him before, it's just, like. It's special, man. Like, you know, like, the woman who made the album cover.
22:37
Jooselord
Oh, yeah.
22:38
DJ Iron Mike
Like, we. You know, she had never seen us perform before, and we played at a bar, and boom.
22:43
Jooselord
Yeah, and boom. I forgot. Yo, we met her at a bar, and boom. And she was selling prints of her artwork, and she was like, yo, I'mma give you some art. I'mma just give it to you. Yo, you so good. And I was like, I'mma work with you in the future. Watch.
22:58
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
22:59
DJ Iron Mike
And like, that's amazing. Love that. Yeah. Like, that's. That's so special. Cuz, like, I grew up in a. In a. In an art family. Like, my mom's an artist, my dad's an artist.
23:07
Jooselord
Good. And mom's amazing artist.
23:09
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
23:10
DJ Iron Mike
Mama Mike is on point.
23:12
Jooselord
She was in a punk band.
23:14
DJ Whippopatomus
Hey, shout out Mama Mike.
23:16
DJ Iron Mike
But to know, like, you know, like, to make art, it takes a lot. To make good art takes a lot. And to offer something to give, like, to just commission something to somebody and not ask for anything. When artists, like, have to scrape for every fucking penny they make to figure.
23:31
Jooselord
Out how you gonna make ends meet.
23:34
DJ Iron Mike
Like, the fact that she could connect with his music like, that had never seen him before, you know, it wasn't like a. Like a social media dick jockey or nothing. Like, never seen him before, was willing to give that piece of. Of herself to him that he could use in his album. Like, you know, like, I don't know many, like, even mainstream artists that connect with the. With their fans like that.
23:55
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
23:55
DJ Iron Mike
You know, so it's a special thing, man.
23:57
DJ Whippopatomus
That's. That's beautiful. For real. Yeah. One of my. My favorite lyrics off of Kick in the Door. It's the first line in my own words. This for all my guys that meditate.
24:09
Jooselord
Yeah.
24:09
DJ Whippopatomus
Do you meditate?
24:10
Jooselord
Yes. Yes. If I didn't, I wouldn't be. I probably wouldn't be with us anymore if I didn't. You know what I mean? Like, that re. Centering and, you know, connecting with the earth and connecting with yourself and just blocking everything out and understanding that you exist. That's really what meditating is about. Like, you exist, you are here. Everything else is just happening around you. You know what I'm saying? That's pretty much what my meditation is about, because everybody's meditation about something, but mine is just like, yo, listen, don't get caught up in, you know, my life is so minute compared to what the world is, or, I mean, so much to so many people. Like, it's always like these. These extremes. But, you know, when I meditate, you pull away from that.
24:58
DJ Iron Mike
Mm.
24:59
Jooselord
You pull away from that. And it's not the extremes. It's Just me. And it's me understanding that I do exist. And, you know, without. With. With. Without those people needing me, I'm still important, you know? And. And regardless of how insignificant I may be to the millions and trillions of universes there are in the world, I'm still important.
25:21
DJ Whippopatomus
No doubt. No doubt. Yeah. I love how you normalize that, too. And just like, I'm sure there's a lot of. A lot of people out there that meditate and don't know that other people are doing the same thing.
25:31
Jooselord
So you got to squad.
25:33
DJ Iron Mike
Our squad crossbones is full of very tough guys.
25:36
Jooselord
Yeah.
25:36
DJ Iron Mike
Very tough motherfuckers. Really? That really will fuck you up.
25:40
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
25:40
DJ Iron Mike
Really will send somebody at you.
25:42
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, but no doubt.
25:43
DJ Iron Mike
But if you listen, if you look at our group chat, if you were just like a fly on the wall in our group chat, it's nothing but like, hey, everybody good?
25:49
Jooselord
Yeah, exactly.
25:51
DJ Iron Mike
Mental health check. I love you. Same. Same people who have, like, you know, we have. I'm not gonna put anyone's business out there, but, like, you know, we've all been through, all of us, you know, nothing sweet about us, but, like, when it comes to mental health, like, we all. We got.
26:05
Jooselord
Yeah. Yeah.
26:07
DJ Iron Mike
Especially in our community, like, sometimes there's a stigma placed on mental health and being open about it. And, like, if you. If you're open about how you're feeling, you know, if you're feeling down, you're feeling depressed, like, oh, you soft, whatever.
26:18
DJ Whippopatomus
But.
26:18
Jooselord
And then what makes it more better than somebody, you know, not soft saying?
26:25
DJ Iron Mike
Exactly.
26:26
Jooselord
You know what I'm saying?
26:27
Jooselord
What makes him more of that? Like, you look at me like, that dude is definitely not soft. And I'm like, yo. And I'm just in my music, like, yo, my feelings is hurt and I'm sad, and they like, yo, he said that in the toughest way ever. But I felt that, yo.
26:41
Jooselord
Cuz, it's the truth, though.
26:42
Jooselord
My feelings was hurting.
26:43
Jooselord
I was sad.
26:45
DJ Whippopatomus
Validated, validating people, bro.
26:50
Jooselord
You just don't want people to feel alone. Yo.
26:52
DJ Iron Mike
Exactly.
26:53
DJ Whippopatomus
Facts, facts, bro. Yeah. There's too many people in the world to be alone.
26:57
Jooselord
Most loneliness is in your head.
26:59
DJ Whippopatomus
No.
26:59
Jooselord
You know what I'm saying? There's people with millions and millions of people who would, like, think about Robin Williams, people. A lot of people would have did anything for him, but at the end of the day, he felt alone. That's just what happens, you know what I mean? Noelius is in your head. So when you could listen to music and somebody is saying they true feelings. As long as I'm saying my true feelings, then I don't. Like I said, I don't deprive anybody of all of me. And I'm giving people. Once I give people all of me, then usually it's a part of them that is a part of me, and they feel heard by that. That one little part they like. Well, I might not have understood all of this, but I understood that, and I needed that.
27:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay, yeah, let's take that in for a second. That was. I hope.
27:49
DJ Iron Mike
It's gonna be.
27:51
DJ Whippopatomus
No, I love it. I love this. What people need to hear now. So I just checked out. Your quarantine music video is about to hit 60,000 views. That's pretty dope.
28:01
Jooselord
Yeah, it was. Okay, so that happened. And the powers that be, it was. It's been. It's been there since the first week I put it out. As you've been out probably three months now. Yeah, the first week I put it out, I got a message from YouTube and said that it was shocking content, that they would no longer promote it or push it in front of people. Wow. It's been at 60. It wasn't even anything.
28:23
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, you didn't tell me that far. I didn't know about it.
28:26
Jooselord
It's been there. That's why it stopped there. It hasn't moved since. That's been. Since the first week. It's been right there.
28:32
DJ Iron Mike
What was shocking?
28:33
Jooselord
I have no idea. It's literally just us bumping around and me saying, like, yo. Like, the music video is a visual of what it's like inside your head during quarantine. Like, you by yourself. That's why I only shot it in one room. You know what I mean? Like, your thoughts going crazy. Either you go crazy with them or you not.
28:55
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, YouTube beyond something else, bro.
28:59
Jooselord
I mean, but it was funny because when they was like, yo, when the numbers was going up, somebody literally messaged me and was like, yeah, I can't believe YouTube is, like, letting you do this. That's so dope. And then I was like, what are you talking about? And then literally two days later, it was like, nope. And we look back and we not go put this in front of people no more.
29:20
Jooselord
Damn.
29:21
DJ Whippopatomus
Did it get demonetized?
29:23
Jooselord
Oh, it never got monetized.
29:25
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, facts.
29:28
Jooselord
I ain't there yet. I ain't making. I ain't making monetized one.
29:31
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, I feel that. Yeah. YouTube took down my whole boy's YouTube channel. And he's a He shoots music videos, and over a private video he sent somebody. It wasn't even public.
29:43
DJ Iron Mike
That's crazy.
29:43
Jooselord
Yeah. You know, they get. They get.
29:46
DJ Whippopatomus
You know, I was upset.
29:49
Jooselord
Dumb guys. They get weird, man. The Red Box Boys and the Blue Box Boys. Yeah, the Red box boys. That's YouTube. And the blue Box Boys, you already know. That's Big Zuck.
30:04
Jooselord
Big Zuck, pull up.
30:06
Jooselord
It's over for you. Yo, I got friends that got 15 burner accounts. Cause Big Zuck be on. They had. They can't call somebody stupid in the comments. Two days, like, hey, what's going on with you?
30:22
DJ Iron Mike
I was. I was on my burner account for a month because when the Afghanistan withdrawal happened and stuff, like, I was in this, like, kind of like, you know, like, tag groups or whatever, and some. Some kid called me a bootlicker, and I was. I called him a. And he didn't get appropriate response to be a bootlicker. His comments still up there. But I got. I called him a. And, like, the.
30:45
Jooselord
Got deleted because they was already watching you. They were already. See, I'm a. See me. I'm one of the Zuck's golden boys. When I go to put stuff up, Facebook said, yo, other people was getting thrown off of this. You sure you won't put that up? I'd be like, yeah, you'd be like, all right, you got it. We gonna let. We gonna let you rock on this one. Hey, look, I ain't gonna say, hey, look, yo, Zuckerberg, I ain't gonna say too much. You know what I'm saying? You mean what's understood. Don't gotta be sad, right? All right,
31:21
DJ Whippopatomus
So it's like that. Yeah,
31:24
Jooselord
I got a little bit of stain in the Blue Box world.
31:29
DJ Whippopatomus
Not a lot of people can say that.
31:32
DJ Iron Mike
I will say, though, back on that quarantine video, like, the whole process of making that was dope.
31:36
DJ Whippopatomus
I was just about to ask.
31:36
DJ Iron Mike
That was a lot of fun.
31:37
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Yeah. What's the process like when you're trying to put the ideas together for music videos?
31:43
Jooselord
That's my first music video.
31:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, okay.
31:45
Jooselord
First and only one. I wrote that song, decided what the beat was gonna sound like, and came up with the music video.
31:53
DJ Whippopatomus
All in the shower at the same time. Like, same shower.
31:57
Jooselord
Yeah, I was, like, in the shower, and I was just like. Cause, like, my shows get. You're gonna see, but my shows get, like, crazy. Like crazy.
32:06
DJ Whippopatomus
I'm ready.
32:06
Jooselord
So, like, you know, imagine being, like, not only being in those moments, but being able to create those Moments and having that taken away from you.
32:17
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
32:18
Jooselord
When we was locked in, I couldn't do it. I couldn't. I couldn't be shoulder to shoulder. I couldn't. All that frustration that I'm used to, being able to get on stage and be like, I'm mad. Ain't y’all mad? They like, yeah.
32:29
DJ Whippopatomus
You know what I'm saying?
32:30
Jooselord
Like. Like, I couldn't do that. So I'm just like, yo, y’all gotta let me out there. Y’all let me out, yo. And I'm like, why nobody got a song? Like, let me out. Like, that's crazy. I was like. And then I'm literally like, how would that sound? I'm like,
32:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Yo.
32:49
Jooselord
And I'm like, I got, like, the recordings in my phone from when I was, like, doing a beat and.
32:56
DJ Whippopatomus
All of that in the shower.
32:57
DJ Iron Mike
I got the shower.
32:58
Jooselord
Yeah, yeah, you can hit a shower in the background.
33:00
Jooselord
Cause you can't let it go. Cause, you know, you be like, I'm gonna record that later. I'm gonna remember that. And you're not gonna remember it. I promise you always make voice memos. You're gonna listen back to them. They gonna sound crazy no matter where you're at. Yeah. No matter where you. I promise you, I'll be at the wedding. Like, Wherever it come to me, I'm doing it. I don't care if I'm at the carnival, on the ride. Everybody's screaming in the background. I'm calm. It's never words either. It's just. Yeah. And then I feel the worst hit later.
33:36
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. Okay.
33:37
Jooselord
What is this song gonna be about?
33:39
DJ Iron Mike
The NSA is, like, just sitting, listening to your phone, like, what the.
33:42
Jooselord
Yeah, that's, like, going on my FBI agent. Like, yeah, we didn't book his room. Now it won't be too long before we lose this one.
33:56
DJ Iron Mike
It's a matter of time.
33:57
DJ Whippopatomus
Johnson, what are you whispering over there?
33:59
Jooselord
Yeah, what are you whispering over there?
34:01
DJ Whippopatomus
You don't want to tell them?
34:02
Jooselord
I don't even know if you think I'm gonna tell you what I was whispering about. I'm not.
34:13
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, I saw on Instagram that you were talking about how it's kind of hard to translate that energy that you have on stage into a music video. Mm. Yeah. Yeah. How was that?
34:21
Jooselord
It's.
34:22
DJ Whippopatomus
I mean, how did you get through that?
34:25
Jooselord
It was so. It was. Making my first music video was one of the scariest instances in the world, because when they came to recording music and performing music, I just tried it, and did it?
34:36
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
34:36
Jooselord
They were just like, I'm gonna try it. Okay. That was pretty all right. You know what I'm saying? And you can't do that with a music video. Like, it gotta be planned out. You can't just be like, all right, bring the camera. Let's try something that's impulsive. Yeah. That's not how it work. You know what I mean? So I'm just allowed to feel on stage. I'm allowed to feel in the booth.
34:54
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
34:54
Jooselord
I can't just feel a music video. I have to make something and create something beforehand and think out something that is going to contain the feel that I have.
35:04
DJ Whippopatomus
You gotta keep that momentum. Yeah.
35:06
Jooselord
And it's like, you know, you can't have great recorded music and a great live show and trash music videos. You know what I'm saying?
35:13
DJ Whippopatomus
No doubt, no doubt. Music videos are key.
35:17
Jooselord
I mean, I just brought around all the people I love and I told them, do what they do.
35:23
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
35:24
Jooselord
They're like, that's literally like, what do you want us to do? I was like, that turn up. Whatever you wanna do.
35:30
DJ Iron Mike
Yo, that shit was crazy.
35:32
Jooselord
And they tore that furniture up.
35:34
DJ Iron Mike
Y. I remember, like, doing that. Like, were like. We were shooting it and like, you know, like, Pat. Pat Lincoln, the dude who shot it. And he. He was like, all right, so you guys just go crazy now? And I was just like, wait, I get to just. I get to just throw all this shit around?
35:50
Jooselord
Yeah. And he was like, it's up to Joose. And I was like, hey, look, that's what it's here for. And I don't know what's going on. Cause I'm literally like, they didn't. I wasn't put there. I was literally standing there and they were behind me going crazy. So all I hear is sounds.
36:07
Jooselord
Until.
36:07
Jooselord
I see the music video. And I was like, yo, they was cool. So I hear sounds, I turn around and all of the. All of the stuff is destroyed, but I don't know what happened.
36:16
DJ Whippopatomus
Did not disappoint.
36:18
Jooselord
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
36:19
DJ Iron Mike
A lot of fun.
36:20
DJ Whippopatomus
Who shot that video?
36:21
Jooselord
Pat Lincoln. Okay. Pat Lincoln.
36:23
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, real quick, who. Who did your album art?
36:28
Jooselord
My friend Kelsey.
36:30
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
36:30
Jooselord
Bet she did my. She did my album art for the quarantine.
36:35
DJ Iron Mike
Sorry.
36:35
DJ Whippopatomus
For mosh pit.
36:36
Jooselord
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:38
DJ Iron Mike
Okay.
36:39
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, I always like to shout out to the behind the scenes people, too.
36:42
Jooselord
Yeah. Nah, she. She's fire. Yo. She does tattoos.
36:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
36:45
Jooselord
She's. She's like a beast. She did the back of this shirt too. Oh, okay. Yeah, she's a beast, y'.
36:51
DJ Whippopatomus
All. So, yeah, about your show that's coming up again, that's at Pour House on October 8th. You can get your tickets on Eventbrite.
37:02
Jooselord
Oh, I can't tell you. Follow me.
37:04
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, but you can follow Jooselord at.
37:09
Jooselord
At Jooselord.
37:11
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
37:13
Jooselord
J O O S E L O R D. You can also Google it. I'm verified on Google.
37:19
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, hell yeah.
37:20
DJ Iron Mike
Something about this show is live album recording.
37:22
Jooselord
Yeah.
37:23
DJ Iron Mike
Like, it's not just.
37:24
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. What is that all about?
37:26
Jooselord
It's like, okay, so you know how, like, when you go to Apple Music and you type in J? Because I've been listening to James Brown a lot because he has so many live albums.
37:34
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
37:34
Jooselord
He's got his regular albums. And then in a. In a separate category is just like. It's just a live show, which is basically a medley of all your favorite James Brown songs, where you can hear people reacting like, oh, my God. When he stopped. You hear people like, James, that's. And I. And my shows have a whole lot of, like, crowd interaction and, like, people who've been there before, they know what to do and when to do it, and all of them are gonna be there. So, like, this, like, live recording. I'm not gonna lie. It's probably. I'm. I'm most excited for this than I've ever been for anything else. Yeah. Ever.
38:16
DJ Whippopatomus
Ever came at the perfect time.
38:20
Jooselord
I believe it's going to be my best show ever.
38:22
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, man.
38:24
Jooselord
I believe it's going to be my best show.
38:25
DJ Whippopatomus
It is speaking into existence right now.
38:28
Jooselord
We had some really good shows, too.
38:30
DJ Iron Mike
And then on top of that, just, like, the fact that the Pour House is going to be pressing it to vinyl and selling it.
38:36
Jooselord
Yeah. Like, that's.
38:37
DJ Iron Mike
That, like, adds another layer of just, like, crazy.
38:40
Jooselord
I get that. And I get to pick the album art for that. And I get. So it was like, you know, I'm gonna have a live vinyl. You know what I mean? Not only am I gonna have a vinyl that's exclusive, my vinyl's gonna be of me live. And you can hear people screaming like,
38:56
Jooselord
Yeah, F this and F that.
38:58
Jooselord
Like, yup. They said that.
39:02
DJ Iron Mike
Hear all the stomps from Jovi on stage.
39:04
DJ Whippopatomus
That's gonna beautiful, bro. I cannot wait.
39:06
Jooselord
It's not. It's not a show unless somebody fall off stage. Stage, this is gonna happen. It's a tradition. All the best shows. Somebody fall off stage, and I'm just like, all right, man.
39:19
DJ Whippopatomus
So who. Who all is going to be on the bill who's gonna be performing with you?
39:24
Jooselord
You got Buddha, baby. You got Godric. You got Austin Royale.
39:29
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
39:30
Jooselord
You got 3am you got none after hours. You got Jovi, which is. That's like, if Mike is my left hand, Jovi is my right hand, you know, he would be here today, but we don't know what's going on with him.
39:46
DJ Whippopatomus
That's all good. Yeah. Hope he's doing well.
39:49
Jooselord
Yeah. Hope he doing all right. Hope he doing all right. He feeling a little under the weather, but you know, he don't got the dog, he don't got Corona. Yeah.
39:56
DJ Whippopatomus
You know what I'm saying?
39:57
Jooselord
He doesn't have Covid. He just, you know, it's that summer cold going around.
40:01
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. No, it is for real.
40:03
Jooselord
And then you got me, you know, smorgasbord of sorts. It's a smorgasbord of chaos.
40:10
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
40:12
Jooselord
It's not a single person up there who not chaotic and, you know, it's a well balanced bill of people whose music I love. You know what I mean?
40:24
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, that's dope. Yeah. I just saw Jovi and Austin at Bad Kitty.
40:30
Jooselord
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jovi had it turned up. I couldn't be there cause I was performing in Puerto Rico. Oh, yeah, that's lit. But I wish I was, boy.
40:41
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, no, it was lit, bro. Yeah, I got some videos of that. That was my first time seeing them.
40:46
DJ Iron Mike
And yeah, I will say, like, it's all the lords of all rap.
40:50
Jooselord
Yes. Yeah.
40:51
DJ Iron Mike
You know what I mean?
40:52
Jooselord
Like, yeah, for real.
40:53
DJ Iron Mike
Like, you know, we like the alt rap scene. Like we've like. I love how it's grown like in the past like five years, you know what I mean? And we just got all the heavy hitters who are like really doing like impactful, good ass music all in the same building, man. Like, it's going to be. The energy is going to be wild and it's all.
41:13
Jooselord
And it's all black. Yes, it's all black. You know what I'm saying? Let's be, let's be honest, man. You know what I'm saying? The narrative is that black people don't mosh. Black people don't make you mosh. But we getting dirty. This show don't bring your school clothes. We getting busy.
41:27
DJ Iron Mike
We getting a whole bunch of black kids who grew up listening to Corn and Diplomats.
41:34
Jooselord
Exactly.
41:36
Jooselord
This is a true mix. You never know what you're gonna get here. It's gonna, this is gonna, it's Gonna be a lot of all black at this show. There's gonna be a lot of rip. A lot of rip. Drink. A lot of ripped jeans. You know what I'm saying?
41:47
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay. Okay.
41:48
DJ Iron Mike
A lot of gold too, though.
41:49
Jooselord
Yeah, a whole lot of gold. This is. This is. This is.
41:54
DJ Whippopatomus
Y’all heard it.
41:55
Jooselord
It's gonna be one of my favorite shows ever, I can tell you that.
41:57
DJ Whippopatomus
Y’all know what to expect.
41:59
DJ Iron Mike
A lot of tequila flying around.
42:00
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, yeah.
42:01
Jooselord
Oh, yeah.
42:02
DJ Whippopatomus
That's all I need to hear.
42:03
Jooselord
Yeah, man. You know, so I'm known. I'm kind of known like to be like the. The tequila drinking guy. So, like the fans. The fans will come. Not the fans, the Pirates. Because I don't call my friend. They call pirates. We all pirates together. The Pirates are coming and they'll just sit. They'll sit cups of tequila or shots of tequila at the edge of the stage. And then I just woke up and one time I was at this bar and the bar owner is real cool with me and he brings a cup full of tequila and a beer funnel. He's like, yo, Joose, Joose.
42:38
DJ Iron Mike
Oh, yeah, I remember that.
42:40
Jooselord
So while I get, you know, I'm waiting and I get to the part where the hook is going, so the crowd singing the hook, and I choked this tequila down. Boom. Same. Same thing happened at my birthday last year. I did my listening party for mosh pit Messiah.
42:54
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay?
42:55
Jooselord
And somebody was just like, yo, I got tequila. I'm like, what's up? He had the whole bottle and he like, you gotta do 10 seconds. So I go, I do 15 in the middle of my set, you know what I'm saying? The crowd cheering, they singing a hook.
43:09
DJ Whippopatomus
How'd you feel?
43:10
Jooselord
Amazing. Yeah, Like a pirate.
43:12
Jooselord
Yeah, yeah.
43:14
DJ Whippopatomus
I tell people with tequila is like coffee for me. Yeah, listen, that's energy.
43:17
Jooselord
Listen, every morning. I could do it in the morning, yo, I could do it. Listen, listen, I've been through my fear. I tried whiskey. I don't like the way it make my stomach feel in the morning.
43:26
DJ Whippopatomus
It makes me sick.
43:26
Jooselord
You know, I try yak. Listen, I love yak. I do. But I can only be Henny. Joose can only come out every once in a while. That's a demon the world don't need to meet, you know what I'm saying? So if I want to be mild mannered, neighborhood Jooselord. You throw back some tequila. I don't care if it's cheap or expensive, it all gets you there, you know what I'm saying?
43:50
DJ Iron Mike
Which is wild because tequila gets the bad rap is giving you, like, you know, making you crazy. But, I mean, I'm in the same boat. Like, I just. I be chilling, drinking tequila.
43:59
Jooselord
They try and say tequila make you listen. That yet? That yet listen. That Hennessy. Yeah, Hennessy had me thinking it's 1994, and I wasn't even old enough to be gangster back then.
44:12
Jooselord
Do you understand?
44:14
Jooselord
I was very small.
44:16
Jooselord
It's like.
44:18
Jooselord
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
44:19
DJ Iron Mike
What they on over there with the steel toe tin? You still have the steel toe tin.
44:24
Jooselord
What they on over there? Yo,
44:28
DJ Whippopatomus
What is your favorite tequila?
44:30
Jooselord
My favorite tequila is the kind that gets you drunk. That's Malone, though. Yeah. Hey, listen, when we did the Ghostface and Raekwon show, because we was young bucks and we was. We wasn't the big talent, we did. We did still get a bottle, though. The spot got us a bottle, and they got us Espalone, and we was drinking Espalone before that. But that night and how that night went, that kind of coined, like, yo, Espalone for now on, like, no matter what.
45:03
Jooselord
Because that night,
45:06
DJ Iron Mike
Man.
45:06
Jooselord
Yo, that night, I'm going crazy. A fight breakout. And I'm on stage like, no. And this fight was like, if literally froze, there will be no fighting here. It was like, peace and love. Everybody was like, peace and love. Back to the show.
45:27
DJ Whippopatomus
That's love right there.
45:28
DJ Iron Mike
When you got the old head New York transplants fucking with you, which was the pretty much 98% of that audience, that's how you notice then those are.
45:37
Jooselord
The hardest people impressed, man. Because, you know, truth be told, they came to the show early not because they wanted to see openers, but because they wanted to get a good spot.
45:46
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh.
45:47
Jooselord
You know what I mean? So they just hear, bearing through you know what I mean? Like, they. They hear like, I'm gonna just sit through this dude to Ghostface and Raekwon get up there, you know? Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm. I'm over there and I see them, like, nodding their head and, like. And leaning over to their man's, like, oh, you know, shun this man, Val.
46:05
DJ Iron Mike
And I'm like.
46:06
Jooselord
I'm like, I don't know what's going on. And I'm thinking, like, I'm doing. I'm like, all right, maybe I ain't doing as good as I thought I was, but I'mma still get my all. I don't care. You know what I'm saying? I don't care if nobody like me.
46:17
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
46:18
Jooselord
I'm here to put my art out there, you know what I'm saying? In a room full of thousand people, if five people say, man, that made me feel good, then I did my job.
46:26
DJ Whippopatomus
Hell, yeah.
46:27
Jooselord
But it was way more than five people. Cause I got off and it was like, yo, my nephew make music and that. And everybody wanted to talk. Everybody wanted to talk when I got off, and I was like, oh, so I did do good. I did do, like. Yeah, man, that was crazy. And I looked at. I. You know, they don't got Instagram, but they was following me on Facebook, you know what I'm saying?
46:43
DJ Iron Mike
So 200 new Facebook.
46:47
Jooselord
I don't do all that Instagram. Young. But, yo, that. Hey, what's your Facebook do? All that Instagram, man, all that picture taking, that ain't me. Yo,
47:01
DJ Whippopatomus
You got any rituals that you do before a show?
47:04
DJ Iron Mike
Espalone.
47:05
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
47:05
Jooselord
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm always. I always drink tequila and energy and always make sure we get, like. We get together. You know what I'm saying? I gotta. I gotta put my hand on his shoulder and on Jovi's shoulder. Like, we gotta get connected. You know what I'm saying? Cause we don't practice.
47:24
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. Okay.
47:24
Jooselord
So we just go up there and feel. So we gotta be in some kind of saint.
47:29
DJ Iron Mike
We also don't, like. We don't have, like. We don't come to the show with, like, specific set. We don't have, like a. Like a. Nope.
47:36
Jooselord
I pick my set list at the show. I'm like, yeah, I need to this. Because it all depends now. On the 8th, I got my set list picked out.
47:44
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
47:44
Jooselord
On the 8th, I got my set list picked out because, you know, it's gonna be recorded live. I ain't about to just go in there, you know, throw some monkey nuts.
47:51
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
47:51
Jooselord
Like, we just don't know. Turn it off. Like. Nah.
47:58
DJ Iron Mike
Turn the gain all the way up.
48:00
Jooselord
Yeah.
48:02
Jooselord
I want mad reverb on this one.
48:05
DJ Iron Mike
Small feedback.
48:09
DJ Whippopatomus
So. Yeah. What's it like being a rapper and having a kid?
48:17
Jooselord
That's a. That's a loaded question.
48:20
DJ Whippopatomus
Oh, yeah.
48:25
Jooselord
If it wasn't for success, I would feel like I was doing the wrong thing.
48:29
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
48:29
Jooselord
But that's because the world makes you feel like being a creative is not a viable career. You know, right now, I make more than I've made at any day job.
48:38
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
48:39
Jooselord
You know what I mean? I pay my bills. You know, I do all right off of music, but, you know, still, sometimes you feel like, am I being responsible? Am I. You know, but then, you know, when I was dropping my son off before I came here, he was throwing a fit in the car. And the only thing that makes him feel good is the unreleased song that I be playing. So he listened to that and he like, yeah, you know, so it's like, I know I'm doing the right thing, and I know that what I'm doing and where I could go with it, I could give him endless possibilities in life. Cause that's really what I think about, you know, having a kid is about. Is about giving him as many possibilities.
49:23
Jooselord
So many parents, like, I want you to do this, I want you to do that. I want you to do this. I'm setting my life up so that if he say, yo, I want to play basketball, I could get him LeBron James training. You know what I'm saying? If he say, I want to be a ballerina, I could put him in Black Swan too. You know what I mean? Like, when you. When you get to a certain place and you have a certain amount of connections, you can really make anything happen.
49:45
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay?
49:46
Jooselord
And so having a kid and being a rapper is amazing, but only because I'm successful.
49:54
DJ Whippopatomus
Facts, facts.
49:55
DJ Iron Mike
And it makes you work harder.
49:57
Jooselord
Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was already a hard worker.
50:01
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
50:02
Jooselord
But then he came and I was like, yeah, we can't even. Yeah, we can't even pretend. Like, I don't gotta do more now.
50:10
DJ Iron Mike
No sleep. Yeah.
50:13
Jooselord
What's next?
50:15
DJ Whippopatomus
So how has the local hip hop scene in Durham evolved over time?
50:21
Jooselord
So I was a huge fan of this scene before I ever, like, I only been rapping five years.
50:27
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
50:30
Jooselord
I was a huge fan of this scene before I ever, like, got onto it. And it's still a lot of people who aren't good.
50:40
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
50:42
Jooselord
But. It's a lot of really good people. And there's a lot of people who need to pick it back up, and there's a lot of people who need to. Cause, you know, it's a very discouraging music is a very discouraging, like, career path to choose. You know what I mean? Like, it's a lot of uncertainty. It's a lot of, like, fear and regret and a lot of that go into music. So when it come to. It's just a lot of people who've been burned really bad. And I was, to be honest, I would say that because of that, the scene has been on sort of a decline. You know, you see a lot of the same people and then a lot of the new people. Aren't good and probably never be good.
51:29
Jooselord
You know, but the fact of the matter is everybody's not gonna make it if we being honest.
51:33
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
51:33
Jooselord
You know what I mean? But then there's some really, really amazing people. And I think the biggest problem is that the side that has the investors and the money is the club side. But the club side and the side that we on, we don't really like mesh.
51:55
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
51:56
Jooselord
You know what I mean? Cause the club side, they got money behind them. But I would argue that the more talented people are not on the club side.
52:09
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah.
52:10
DJ Iron Mike
You gotta work harder for being. When you're an indie rapper, like making alternative music, you gotta work harder for what you get is really diy. And that is one thing I will say about Durham and Raleigh. Did the Triangle scene like DIY people? Yeah.
52:26
Jooselord
Because I could just name. I can name producers, rappers, trandle. It's just so many. Lord, it's so many people.
52:36
DJ Whippopatomus
People don't even know who so fire. Yeah.
52:40
Jooselord
And it's just like. It's just hard to get out there because you know you're not gonna make it in the industry without money no more. You know, back when, now, back when Nas was coming up, he just had to be the nicest in Queensbridge, where being the nicest don't mean that much no more.
52:54
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah. That's. That's for real, man. I see a lot of talented, great artists and they've been doing everything right. And still, like, the listens, the views, just. They aren't there. I just don't.
53:05
Jooselord
Because all of that take money.
53:07
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
53:07
Jooselord
All of that take for real, like, everything. It's a. It's a wall. It's a monetary wall. In front of everything you do, they gonna stop you. They gonna. They. They're gonna. You know, it's very, very rare for something to take off on its own if it's not a TikTok.
53:27
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
53:30
Jooselord
And then you see what that means. You could get. You could get 500,000 views on a TikTok and might get two follows from it.
53:38
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
53:38
Jooselord
You know what I mean? A Tick Tock is basically a tweet now. You know, people tweets go viral. Still got 12 followers, though. Great tweet, though, bro.
53:53
DJ Whippopatomus
Before we wrap things up, I wanted to ask who. Who are you listening to when you're growing up?
53:58
Jooselord
When I grew. When I was growing up, I listened to a whole lot of MC Hammer. Yo. Okay, no playing.
54:09
DJ Iron Mike
I'll admit I Did when I was a little kid.
54:10
Jooselord
Yeah. I mean, Hammer was nice. No, he was never nice, but he made good music for a little kid.
54:16
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah.
54:17
Jooselord
You know, dance music. I listen to a lot of. I listen to a lot of Onyx. I listen to a lot of dmx. I listen to a whole lot of Busta Rhymes. I listen to a lot of Michael Jackson. A lot of way more R and B than hip hop. Like, way more R and B. Like Barry White and it's like some R B beats was just crazy. Like that Barry White. Matter of fact, DMX used that beat.
54:48
Jooselord
Deeper and deeper.
54:49
DJ Whippopatomus
That's the beauty.
54:50
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah, Isaac Hayes beats was crazy, too.
54:52
Jooselord
Yeah, Isaac Hayes, crazy beats. It was just like. I don't know, man. I just. I really enjoy music. I listen to a lot of Papa Roach.
55:02
DJ Whippopatomus
Let's go.
55:03
Jooselord
Yeah, I did. Yo, I listened to a lot of Papa Roach. I was a Linkin park fan.
55:08
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah.
55:09
Jooselord
Corn. Just. Man, I listened to a lot. Evanescence. It was just anything I could. Anything that the TV was playing and I thought was good, I was watching and I was listening to it.
55:23
DJ Whippopatomus
Do you feel like you've taken any influences from those artists to your own music?
55:26
Jooselord
Oh, yeah. I think I'm. To be honest, I feel like I'm influenced by every single kind of music I have listened to.
55:32
DJ Whippopatomus
Right.
55:32
Jooselord
You know what I mean? I feel like my layers come from, you know, when I used to listen to gospel music or. I feel like, you know, the voices that I choose to make or, like, the way I. You choose to use my voice comes from, like, singers. And I feel like the chaos that definitely comes from, like, mop and dmx. Buster. Onyx. You know, my son's name is Onyx. I named my son.
55:58
Jooselord
Wow.
55:58
DJ Whippopatomus
That's beautiful. I love that. Who are you listening to now? Is there any projects that you're excited about? Or. Iron Mike.
56:07
Jooselord
Listen to Tyler a lot.
56:09
DJ Whippopatomus
Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. I grew up. That's my dad. Honestly.
56:14
Jooselord
And give you. I can't get enough of Giveon.
56:17
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
56:18
Jooselord
So amazing.
56:18
DJ Whippopatomus
Okay.
56:19
Jooselord
He's such a. He's such a soulful artist. He's so. He's so R&B. It's crazy.
56:27
DJ Whippopatomus
Word. Word. How do you spell that? I haven't heard of him.
56:29
Jooselord
G, I V, E, O, N. You know the song, like, I want you that song.
56:38
DJ Whippopatomus
I think that's ringing.
56:38
Jooselord
Yeah, yeah.
56:39
DJ Iron Mike
They got Auto Tune on this thing.
56:40
Jooselord
Like, don't worry about it. Look, I can sing, though. I can sing.
56:46
DJ Whippopatomus
No, I already know.
56:47
Jooselord
I'll be. I'll be busting my little notes or whatever.
56:50
DJ Whippopatomus
You'll be busting on stage on the 8th.
56:53
Jooselord
Oh, no, there'll be no singing. It won't be. Not on the 8th. Catch me at Jooselord Unplugged.
57:04
DJ Whippopatomus
All right. Yeah, we're gonna close things out. Is there anything else you'd like the listeners to know?
57:10
Jooselord
I am Jooselord.
57:13
DJ Whippopatomus
That's all you need to know.
57:16
DJ Iron Mike
We are the Gallant Gang.
57:17
Jooselord
Yeah. Gallant Gang Pirates. We already know what it is, man.
57:20
DJ Iron Mike
What it is.
57:22
Jooselord
Always protect yourself and others. Always do the right thing, even if it feel wrong.
57:27
DJ Iron Mike
It's bones till we all bones, baby.
57:29
Jooselord
Today and the time.
57:31
DJ Whippopatomus
Where can they find your music?
57:33
Jooselord
Oh, you can find my music on Apple Music on all major streaming platforms. Since I said Apple Music, I gotta say Spotify to even it out, you know? I pledge no allegiance to any streaming platform. I don't care if you use Napster.
57:53
DJ Iron Mike
Limewire.
57:54
Jooselord
Yeah, use Limewire. Illegally download it. I don't care if you illegally download my music, as long as you play it in the background on Instagram.
58:09
DJ Whippopatomus
Thanks. All right, well, it's been a true pleasure talking with y’all today. I really.
58:14
DJ Iron Mike
Thanks for having us.
58:15
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, you already know.
58:16
DJ Iron Mike
To be up here. Memory lane and shit.
58:19
Jooselord
Yeah.
58:19
Jooselord
Yeah. I skipped the J. Cole show for this. I'm very happy to be here.
58:27
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah. I really appreciate y’all sharing your stories. It's been a lot of fun.
58:31
Jooselord
Thank you for having us.
58:32
DJ Whippopatomus
Yeah, you already know. Yeah, I am looking.
58:35
DJ Iron Mike
We look forward to having you at the same, man. We look forward to having you see us for the first time. It's gonna be crazy.
58:41
Jooselord
We gotta take. I'm gonna take. So you gotta take the tequila shot with us before we go on. We gonna be looking for you. We gonna be looking for you. I'm gonna get on stage like, yo, where's Whip? Where's Whip? I'm gonna be up there, bro, trying to take the shot, about to get it in.
58:58
DJ Whippopatomus
I'm about to set reminders, alarms. I'm gonna be waiting outside the door till it opens.
59:04
DJ Iron Mike
Yeah.
59:04
DJ Whippopatomus
Hey, look, I might not go that far, man.
59:06
Jooselord
Hey, you. Hey, look, you got you a very. Listen, you're a very important person. You got a media pass, right?
59:14
DJ Iron Mike
Local music director like that, bro.
59:17
DJ Whippopatomus
Hey, I tried. It's a good conversation starter. Not gonna lie.
59:21
Jooselord
You're pretty good here, you know? You know, we walk in a room, they'll know who Whip is.
59:25
DJ Whippopatomus
You know what I mean? Hey, no, I appreciate that. That's love, for real.
59:28
DJ Iron Mike
You're a friend of A friend, Tone.
59:31
Jooselord
Jooselords sent you.
59:34
DJ Whippopatomus
I let everybody know I go to the grocery store. Hey, Jooselord sent me. You heard? But now. All right, I'm gonna wrap it up. Y’all are listening to WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1 Raleigh. This is DJ Whippopatomus, and I.
59:52
Jooselord
Was here with DJ Iron Mike and Jooselord.
01:00:01
DJ Whippopatomus
And I appreciate y’all for listening. Y’all be easy.
01:00:03
DJ Iron Mike
Peace.
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