Perry Maysun
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What's good everyone you're listening to WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1 Raleigh. We are student run nonprofit college radio station based out of North Carolina State University. I'm DJ Off Belay, also known as Ewan. And this is the alt rap pipeline deep cuts where we're interviewing some of the up and coming talent out of the alt rap underground. Today, I'm here with Perry Maysun, what's good, man? How you going?
Perry Maysun 0:24
Hey, man, how you doing?
Ewan Pratt 0:25
Good. Good. So just for maybe some people if they're listening, they don't know who are you want to give yourself like a little intro? Or like how long you've been making music what your sound's like?
Perry Maysun 0:34
I am Perry Maysun. I'm a, um, 20 year old alternative rapper, producer, experimental artist from New York. And my music is just, it's just my mental health and like, just like my personal struggles with myself, um, just like anybody else has into, um, into my music, you know, it's just that's all my music it really is, is just me, expressing myself and things that I go through on a day to day. Um, and just like, like that, I guess I would say it's just, it's just the purest expression of myself-
Ewan Pratt 1:11
Yeah-
Perry Maysun 1:11
-would be my music, if I could describe it.
Ewan Pratt 1:13
Yeah, I was gonna get into that. I feel like your music is super raw and vulnerable. Like you put a lot into it. Do you think that that like, sort of helps you make music? Because it's just so honest, and you're allowed to just freely express or do you think it kind of makes you hold that?
Perry Maysun 1:25
Cuz I used to make music before under a different name. And I was trying to like, it was always, like I would. I would rap about like, like, oh, money and b*tches and that and this, and there's nothing wrong with that. But there's no reason to rap about money and b*tches if you don't have it and I didn't have it and I still don't have it, so I'm not gonna lie. Um, so it's just like, like, I was just making a song like, like, there's just literally like, the chorus was really like, hold on, the chorus was like I was, you, we're on my live, I was making it, I was like-
Ewan Pratt 1:25
Oh, yeah.
Perry Maysun 1:27
-I was like, I was like, am I gonna see you tonight? Probably not. In my bed, Alright, in my bed, Alright. And then it's like, it's like, it's like, he's like, and then I was I was like, skateboard, something on a skateboard. And then I get hit by a car, I can't feel my back. I can't feel my back. Um, skate off on motherf*ckers got hit by a car, can't feel his back. Skate off with his sh*tty scars, because it's like, one time like, I don't do it anymore, but when, like, seven, eight months ago, when I was gonna do a lot of sh*t, I used to just like go on this road by my crib, and like that has like mad cars, and I would just skate mad fast. And then like, sometimes I'll close my eyes which is really f*cked. And one time I got hit by a car in the back. And I was kind of drunk too. And like, my back is f*cked up since then. So I just made a song about it. No, that's the first time I've even talked about it. My mom's gonna see this and be like, what the f*ck is wrong with you? I'm not, I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy.
Ewan Pratt 2:43
No, yeah. I feel like I saw a few things on your social media just kind of playing at that, how people are like, not like dissing you, but just being like, hey, your music is bad message, you should stop. But I feel like that's just the wrong thing to take out of your music. I feel like people should be taking the opposite that like you're kind of just putting your message out so other people hear it and sort of relate to it. When people like reach out about your music and like relating to the message. How does that how does that feel for you? Like, do you think that makes you want to do more?
Perry Maysun 3:09
Bro, the reason I ultimately started doing music is because, it's because like when I was growing up like, like Ty-, like early Tyler, uh, Cudi, Ye, f*cking Childish Gambino, for sure. All these artists like, I had friends growing up a little bit, but like, like, my biggest thing was like, I always just had like a problem with like, just like, I had a lot of personal issues before it was cool, or like, it was okay to talk about your mental health issues. I had a lot of them. And I didn't even, I would hide them. And like, I would just like, I don't know bro, like, I would like sometimes like, like, go to the bathroom. Like when I was at restaurants with my family. I would like go to the bathroom in school. And I would just stare at the mirror and like, look at myself for like 10-20 minutes. Like I used to always spend mad time in the bathroom. I just look at myself and like, just listen to music, like on full blast, bro. Like full, full blast and like, just like, I just always have had like this like, I don't know, I've always felt kind of weird. Just mentally since I've been little, at least as long as I can remember, and I kind of always kept the hidden until like the last couple of years and music was a big help for that. And I was like, bro, if I could do that with my music for someone else. And even for myself, it would be great because like, because, because obviously music helps my, helps me so f*cking much, but I was like bro, I wanna, I want to see if making it would help like that. And it really does. It really does.
Ewan Pratt 4:25
So it sort of works both ways for you it seems like, like listening to music as a listener is also sort of therapeutic but just making it-
Perry Maysun 4:32
Yeah.
Ewan Pratt 4:32
-same thing?
Perry Maysun 4:33
Music is the best thing in the world bro. No sh*t.
Ewan Pratt 4:35
Yeah, that's, that's interesting that you mentioned that you'd sort of like listen to music full blast, staring at yourself in the mirrors. I feel like in your albums at least in, uh, especially with A Man With No Face. I feel like you talked about that a lot. There's like a motif of looking in the mirror and like looking at yourself. I feel like that's just in general with your music too talking about your own emotions, but it's kind of interesting that-
Perry Maysun 4:55
I've just been going through like, my fault. I've just been going through like, like an existential crisis to be honest, like, and I'm not like afraid to talk about it, but it's just like, I just like been like having like trouble, like gripping onto my own existence as a person. Like, I don't know. I feel like everyone goes through that though, right?
Ewan Pratt 5:09
Yeah. I think especially the last few years, I mean, everyone's just been cooped up inside stuff like that. It's just, makes it, it even more real, um-
Perry Maysun 5:19
Exactly.
Ewan Pratt 5:20
Yeah. I just want to talk first, a little bit about My Elegant Breaking Point, because that's sort of the first thing I heard about you. Or from you, I guess.
Perry Maysun 5:27
Wait hold on.
Ewan Pratt 5:28
You're good.
Perry Maysun 5:29
Let me see if, let me see if I-
Ewan Pratt 5:31
Oh, the CD. Nice. Yeah, I mean, first off, I just want to talk about the cover art. I feel like that's such a lost thing nowadays is actually putting time into the visuals surrounding music and like surrounding the album.
Perry Maysun 5:38
We love, we love beautiful cover arts on this side bro.
Ewan Pratt 5:44
Yeah, yeah, you got some really nice ones. Yeah, I feel like-
Perry Maysun 5:53
Thank you my friend.
Ewan Pratt 5:54
-it's not super common in the underground scene that you're in to be releasing like, not only just how much music you're releasing, but also just like in big long album forms. I was talking about that with scuba diver the other week. It's kind of a lost art like presenting an album in a complete form. It's just like it's a great way to release music. I don't know. What do you feel?
Perry Maysun 6:14
It's my, it's coming back that's what I would say, is like you got like, the biggest, like it went away for a while but like the biggest artists this year are dropping albums like, you got f*cking Beyonce's album was beautiful. You got like artists like Tyler bringing back the album. You got artists like Kanye keeping the album alive, obviously, in Donda, like just showed how far an album could go. Um, the sales just, just, just the performance of it just showed off for an album. You got artists, you just got, there's so many artists that are keeping the album alive and there's so many artists that are bringing the album back like JID just dropped his album. It was f*cking fantastic. Like there's just, I think the album just, went away for a little bit like anything does but like there's always people that love it you know what I mean, like, like when people were like yo, lyrical rap is dead like, in like 2017, 2016, um, yeah, a certain kind of lyrical rap is dead. Like sh*t that's like very like corny. Like, like, amina emina enna enna ema ima ama like that, that's like, like the, that the lyrical fear? Yeah, for sure. But like, real substance music, rap. And mumble rap isn't even a thing, bro. First, like, that term is stupid as f*ck.
Ewan Pratt 7:20
Yeah.
Perry Maysun 7:21
Because like, what, what people call mumble rap, I f*ck with it, I listen to Joey Bad*ss and listen to Future in the same five minutes. I don't give a f*ck.
Ewan Pratt 7:27
Yeah.
Perry Maysun 7:27
But it's like, what I'm saying is like, just like albums, as a whole are coming back in all aspects, like, in every genre, and I just feel like it's gonna be, it's a big thing, like, and people really care about it. Like, especially because we're in a time where like, media is so much, um, more prevalent. Like, you got someone like Tyler doing the billboards with the rings, you can call, call me for you loss, you could call. You got f*cking Kanye doing the live stream Apple shows. You got like, just like, like, there's so many examples. And it's just like, it's just I don't see it going away personally.
Ewan Pratt 8:01
Yeah I really-
Perry Maysun 8:02
Even, even, even, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Ewan Pratt 8:04
No, you're good, you can talk as much as you want. It's your interview.
Perry Maysun 8:06
Even f*cking, I don't even, I don't even f*ck with DJ Khaled like that. Like I'm not, because I didn't like what he said about like Tyler I feel like that is weird. But even someone like DJ Khaled, bro. Like one of the, that's like a mainstream, that's like, that's like as mainstream as you could get is literally doing a whole *ss rollout for your sh*t. So it's like, it's everywhere.
Ewan Pratt 8:21
Yeah, it seems like nowadays, there's so much you can do. It's kind of silly to not even put anything into it. It kind of gets into one point I wanted to talk about too is, I mean, especially with the underground I feel like social media is such a big part of like the music releasing process. And I've seen you talk about it a little bit how it's sort of like, hard to balance like posting every day just to get like a constant audience when you could be spending that time making music but it's like, if you spend all your time making music-
Perry Maysun 8:47
It's almost too much bro. It's almost, almost too much to be honest, bro. But it's, it's so relative like, like 20-, 2005 you just got to pass a sh*t ton of CDs to everyone. It's just, it's just, it's this the newer thing to that thing it's just like, it's just with the time bro. This posting on TikTok, you're just passing out your CD.
Ewan Pratt 9:05
Yeah, I mean, do you think that like TikTok, specifically with it's like super short, like, I feel like everything that's big on TikTok is like super short, super catchy, super loud. Do you think that having that in your mind sort of changes how you make music like, oh, I gotta make something catchy to put out or?
Perry Maysun 9:22
Um, no, never. What I do, um, hold on, a lot of my sh*t flops, all the time. Like I have so many songs that'll flop, I have songs that do good, I, I mean not, not flop to me, like one person enjoys it. Just keep going. But like, a lot of my sh*t in the eyes of like, the grand scale, you could call it a flop like I just dropped a song called At The Movies Alone and only did 1k. I've had songs do 10, 20k first week, that song did 1k first week. But to me, like I will never ever, I'll use TikTok like I'm not a, I'm not a TikTok artist. I'm an artist on TikTok. They just have the simularity.
Ewan Pratt 9:55
Thats a good way ofputting it, yeah.
Perry Maysun 9:56
I will never ever, ever make a song for a f*cking app like, unless I'm making a song to promote an app. Yeah, I could dig that. But like, I'll never make a song and be like, Yo, this is going to catch on TikTok. Like, I'm making a song that yo people are going to f*ck with this but I'm never like making a song, and I'm like, okay, this part is gonna be the part that I like, you know, because you see that all the time, you can tell these people make, certain people make songs for, it's a catch as a snippet.
Ewan Pratt 10:21
Yeah, and it's just like-
Perry Maysun 10:23
And there's, I'm not judging. That's just not me you know.
Ewan Pratt 10:24
Yeah, and then it's kind of just like, everyone knows the song for only the three seconds. I don't know exactly what song but I've seen a few examples like at concerts, like, the whole song is quiet until the one line that is a TikTok trend, and then everyone screams it.
Perry Maysun 10:24
People do that sh*t to Yung Lean bro.
Ewan Pratt 10:39
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Perry Maysun 10:41
Before you say it, before you say it Yung Lean is not a TikTok artist. I've seen that so many, he's not.
Ewan Pratt 10:46
Nah nah nah nah, he was, when did, when did he start dropping, like 2012? No, 2017? I don't know. He's-
Perry Maysun 10:52
No like 2010 bro.
Ewan Pratt 10:53
Really? Yeah.
Perry Maysun 10:54
2011.
Ewan Pratt 10:55
Um, yeah, I feel like you can, like you said, you can always tell when someone's making a song for TikTok, which is not a bad thing. It's just I feel like you are not, that's not really what you're trying to do. It seems like you're trying to grow artificially with your message, not necessarily like trick the algorithm into giving you a bunch of views.
Perry Maysun 11:11
Yeah, nah and my bad for cursing, bro.
Ewan Pratt 11:14
Nah you're good, you're good. Um, yeah you're good. It's just it's gotta go on the radio so I gotta edit it out later.
Perry Maysun 11:22
Okay, okay.
Ewan Pratt 11:24
Yeah, and I feel like, back to My Elegant Breaking Point, um, that had, I th-, pretty sure no features, just maybe one feature on it? And then yeah-
Perry Maysun 11:34
No, no feat-, no features.
Ewan Pratt 11:36
Yeah.
Perry Maysun 11:36
My, my grandma, my grandma is featured on track 11 my great grandma, R.I.P her for sure.
Ewan Pratt 11:43
Yeah and then this new album you have, not the case, you have a few more features. How do you think, do you think what sort of changed in your approach to features? Just some songs you feel you can't do a certain sound without some artist or it's just like you want to mess with an artist?
Perry Maysun 11:57
Um, I just like, I just wanted to collab with some people honestly, like it was like that simple like the new album only has one feature, uh, I think is Muchi and then, no two features Muchi and my friend Asmo. Asmo Kid, but that's it. And then this mixtape I'm dropping on Halloween has like five features because like I wanted to collab with people but like, going forward, we're going back to no features. I just wanted to work with people for a little bit, you know what I mean?
Ewan Pratt 12:21
Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that too. How your like approach sort of changes from calling something a mixtape versus calling something an album. It seems like you kind of touched on that.
Perry Maysun 12:31
Because I do so much sh*t in rollout bro and detail for my f*cking mixtape is just like my emotions. It's just like, it's gonna have a beautiful cover. Don't get me wrong, but like, I don't know if you were tapped to me when I was rolling out my last project, but I did a lot of things. I did a paint video, I did a website, I painted my entire album. Um, everything is just going to be the songs, a beautiful cover, and every song is gonna come with a poem, per usual. I always drop a song with a poem. But that's it. That, then there's one more, I'm saying so much, but there's one more album I'm dropping in this, because this year I started and I was like, bro my strong suit is albums so I'm gonna drop f*cking albums and projects and EPs and mixtapes because f*ck it bro, just what I want to do.
Ewan Pratt 13:13
Yeah.
Perry Maysun 13:13
So like, I wanted to do three albums this year and as many EPs and mixtapes as I wanted so we got this mixtape, I Can't Find The Moon, and one more thing at the end of the year.
Ewan Pratt 13:22
That's on Halloween right?
Perry Maysun 13:24
Halloween, yeah, I'm very excited bro. I'm very excited for it.
Ewan Pratt 13:27
Yeah, by the time people hear this the lead single off that will probably be out by now right? Should be coming out in November too.
Perry Maysun 13:33
Oh you talking about, uh, uh, Binasu?
Ewan Pratt 13:33
Oh, I'm not sure the name of it, but you've been teasing it a bunch on TikTok.
Perry Maysun 13:38
The lock door for summer-
Ewan Pratt 13:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome, yeah.
Perry Maysun 13:41
It drops, it drops in two days.
Ewan Pratt 13:43
Yeah, so that'll be out by the time people hear this.
Perry Maysun 13:46
There's actually going to be three singles. Three.
Ewan Pratt 13:48
Oh, wow. Nice out of, how many, how many songs are on the mixtape?
Perry Maysun 13:53
You're gonna think I'm out of my mind but, 13.
Ewan Pratt 13:56
Oh, okay. I was thinking a lot shorter, yeah. I guess, I guess I was thinking more EP which is like five songs. But yeah, mixtape. That, that's chill. I mean that's as many as you had on My Elegant Breaking Point though.
Perry Maysun 14:06
Think mixtape, mixtape think, think, the old Odd Future tape. Think Mac. You know what I mean, Faces.
Ewan Pratt 14:13
Yeah. Okay.
Perry Maysun 14:14
Like those are mixtapes, like, so it's like it's a project for sure. Like it's a concise project. I'm gonna put it together but it's a tape like, because it's just I feel like on an album I really try to make it the most perfect I possibly can. And on the mixtape, I'm allowing my flaws to come through and I like flaws. You know, sometimes I like flaws. Um, and it gives me more room to f*ck around and make sh*t sound aggressive, make sh*t sound really sad. Make sh*t just like, it's way more raw. It's way more raw and just like uncut.
Ewan Pratt 14:43
Yeah.
Perry Maysun 14:44
In a sense.
Ewan Pratt 14:45
Yeah, I've seen you've also sort of been getting into the production side of music making now too. Do you think that's going to sort of take your music to the next level? Yeah, I saw you on the live stream too making the beat.
Perry Maysun 14:54
You f*ck with that beat?
Ewan Pratt 14:56
Yeah, I liked it. I really, I feel like, I don't know if this is what you were going for. I feel like it gave me big like Ski Mask, X vibes back in 2016. Like just aggressive distorted mic. It was really raw I liked it.
Perry Maysun 15:08
Um, I don't know what I was going for, but I appreciate the comparison. Those are good sh*t, I mean, um, I, I love producing. I've fallen in love with it. I'm pretty sh*t at it, I'm pretty *ss. Um like I'm not, I'm not Zion, I'm not Scuba, I'm not f*cking Muchi. You know Muchi?
Ewan Pratt 15:25
Yeah, I know Muchi. Yeah, I've played a few songs of his.
Perry Maysun 15:27
Muchi's f*cking godly bro, I love Muchi and Tommy Richman are actually my favorite artists right now. Um-
Ewan Pratt 15:35
You said Muchi and who?
Perry Maysun 15:37
Tommy Richman.
Ewan Pratt 15:37
Tommy Richman. Oh, yeah, I've heard, I think two weeks ago I played their song Preroll.
Perry Maysun 15:44
Tommy, Tommy and J. Mack?
Ewan Pratt 15:46
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't-
Perry Maysun 15:48
You got to look, you got to look into the rest of his discography, f*cking beautiful.
Ewan Pratt 15:50
Yeah. Okay. Sweet, sweet. Yeah. Um, any other sort of like, stand up people you have in the underground?
Perry Maysun 15:57
I'm just talking from production sense. I love Scuba's production. I love Muchi's. Dog, Frank Sativa bro, crazy. I love Frank Sativa. I f*ck with Gao The Arsonist. Gao The Arsonist is on my project.
Ewan Pratt 16:08
Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah, I think you'll fit really well with your sound too.
Perry Maysun 16:12
We got, project, I'm just gonna say we got Tec, Gao The Arsonist, Tec, Gao The Arsonist, Tommy Richman. Um, and this girl Santessa. You don't know her yet, but you will know her.
Ewan Pratt 16:26
Okay, okay.
Perry Maysun 16:28
Um, that's it I think. I might have a couple more honestly, I might just f*cking load this b*tch the f*ck up because I don't, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I might just load it, I might just load it up. Um, because like, I don't know. I just want to, I never collab with people and I feel like collabing with people, I think it's cool.
Ewan Pratt 16:47
Yeah, you have a few songs where you're on other people's songs too. Do you think that sort of gonna stay the same? It's just like your songs, you're going to keep them to you after this mixtape for a little bit or?
Perry Maysun 16:55
Wait, like what, which songs?
Ewan Pratt 16:56
I mean, you got like Steer Clear with Scubadiver. I feel like I guess you have-
Perry Maysun 17:00
I love that song.
Ewan Pratt 17:00
Yeah, I like that song too. I mean, I guess Shy High's on your song, your not on the Shy High song with Bugs.
Perry Maysun 17:06
Oh, Bugs?
Ewan Pratt 17:06
Yeah, the remix.
Perry Maysun 17:08
Love Shy, Shy is great. Um-
Ewan Pratt 17:10
I feel like Shy is a good example of people doing the like, not necessarily he's making songs for TikTok, but he's doing the like, TikTok sound and like reveal. Well, I feel like he's very understanding of TikTok.
Perry Maysun 17:21
I don't, I don't, bro, Shy, Shy doesn't really bend to TikTok but Shy just has like a, Shy's music is just viral, I don't know how to explain, like Shy's music just sounds viral, but I don't, I don't think he tries to make it sound, I think he just makes what he feels like it is so fun to listen to.
Ewan Pratt 17:34
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess in that situation-
Perry Maysun 17:36
I love Shy, bro.
Ewan Pratt 17:36
I mean, yeah, it just blows up on TikTok because of the sound too.
Perry Maysun 17:39
He's just a cool and real nice guy, bro, real nice. Shout out Shy, shout out Shy High.
Ewan Pratt 17:46
Yeah, so your recent song is self produced right? The movies, alone at the movies?
Perry Maysun 17:52
Uh, At The Movies Alone, yes sir.
Ewan Pratt 17:54
At The Movies Alone? Yeah so are you sort of with your, with this mixtape what's the percentage of like self produced versus on other people's beats?
Perry Maysun 18:03
I can tell you right now. Let me check. Hold on. I have, it's gonna be like 13 songs, around, and somewhere around that, that margin. And I'm gonna have, I have hold on bruh. Trying to see.
Um, I think four songs three or four songs.
Ewan Pratt 18:29
Okay. I mean that's a lot for someone that's just started honestly.
Perry Maysun 18:34
It's been a month and a half man I gotta, I gotta get, gotta get sh*t, gotta get the things out there.
Ewan Pratt 18:40
Yeah, um, yeah, I feel like, I mean Carter already touched on that, but yeah, once you start producing your own music you can really take your sound to how you want it, but I honestly would, was kind of surprised to hear that you didn't produce your own music just because how like, feel like the production on My Elegant Breaking Point just fits the whole vibe of the song and each, I don't know, they don't really sound like tight beats I know you're not on tight beats but you know what I mean. They, it sounds like you're making the structure with your lyrics and the beats following you if that makes any sense.
Perry Maysun 19:08
That's, that's, that's, that's Zion Cat bro my heat, Zion has like seven on this project, Zion will always have like half my project's produced by him because like, he just, he produced 13 songs on, f*ck. He produced like, he produced like 13 songs on My Elegant Breaking Point. No, he produced the entire, he produced this entire album. The entire My Elegant Breaking Point, he produced like 12 on The Man With No Face and like he's just my favorite producer in the whole world, he's my brother. Shout out Zion Cat. Shout out Zion Cat he's gonna be dropping a project this year or early next year. We'll see. Beautiful producer.
Ewan Pratt 19:44
Yeah, I mean, I'm just going through I have like little notes for every song on My Elegant Breaking Point. I just feel like so many of them have like, I don't know. They just have like beats switches and they fade out in the intro and outro they just go so well together. It's like beautifully produced.
Perry Maysun 20:00
Thank you, bro. Shout out me, shout out Zion Cat
Ewan Pratt 20:04
Yeah, like um, just back to sort of like-
Perry Maysun 20:07
Shout out myself.
Ewan Pratt 20:07
-I don't know, I just love albums and I feel like you do it so well, just how every song runs together, especially like, Melissa. I mean, it's, great song by itself, don't get me wrong, but when you put it in the context of the album, it just makes it so much better because you have those first two tracks that are just like, low and sad and just sort of like building the tension and then even in Melissa, there's like the tension that gets built up. Ugh, it's just so good.
Perry Maysun 20:31
What's your, what's your favorite, what's your top three off that album?
Ewan Pratt 20:34
Off that album? Gotta say Melissa, Duality, and uh, either Please Just Follow Your Heart or Bugs. I really like Bugs.
Perry Maysun 20:47
Thank you bruh. I appreciate it.
Ewan Pratt 20:49
If you were sort of, if you're gonna give someone that hasn't heard any of your music, like a three to five track, like you gotta listen to these, what would they be from you?
Perry Maysun 21:02
I got, bro I got so much music, hold on. Let me check my Spotify.
Ewan Pratt 21:04
Yeah, that's why I said five, maybe because you got a, you got a vault.
Perry Maysun 21:10
I'm just, bruh, I just think a lot of people like the holy music. I just put the sh*t out. I just, can I say sh*t?
Ewan Pratt 21:14
Nah.
Perry Maysun 21:16
I just put this stuff out, because like, I just like, I'm just big into just releasing my thoughts. So I just, a lot of people like don't. I'd say The Man With No Face Part One, Heaven, Melissa's, May I Have This Dance, and, to show that I can produce, At The Movies Alone.
Ewan Pratt 21:38
Nice, nice. Yeah, May I Have This Dance is a really good one, too.
Perry Maysun 21:43
That's off the top of my head though, so I don't, I have a lot of songs.
Ewan Pratt 21:47
Yeah, so do you feel like your philosophy towards releasing music, how you just said like, you just want to get it all out, do you think that's just where you are at your career, where you sort of just want to be making the most noise and getting the most attention with all this music? Or do you think that's something you're gonna continue as you grow?
Perry Maysun 22:03
It's, it's not, it's not, it's not necessarily about the noise. It's more about the fact that it's like, I know that like, life is finite. And like, I really just, you never know, you know what I mean, and I'm scared of that, that like, because my, the one thing that keeps me alive is creating. I love it more than anything, but you never know when something could happen or, God forbid something happens, but it's just, I want all my thoughts that I really believe in to be put out while I'm here. And I feel like people are enjoying them. So why not? But it's not like a, it's not like a, people get it confused. They're like, Oh my God, he's putting out so much music. He just wants to blow up. No, bro. It's not about that. I want to build my back catalog. I take so much pride in like, opening my Spotify and seeing like these albums, but they're not just like random albums with like, BS covers, they're like, they're full, like, they're really concise projects that I really put my heart into and my time and hours and hours and hours and nothing's rushed. And I just really feel I really feel like I just want to put it out man while I'm here because I can live to 100 or 21, or who knows. I'm not gonna put a number on it, but what I'm saying is like, while I'm on the planet and I have these ideas, like bro, I record every idea I have. I don't drop everything but I try as hard as I, every song that I believe in when it's time for an EP or a mixtape I clean house. Pick the be-, pick the best three, pick the singles, let's do it. Let's create let's create worlds bro. Let's create worlds and leave, leave it behind my music, I want, I want my music to live beyond me. And like, this is gonna, like, people will look back and be like, I don't know, I don't know what I'm on next year, but they'll look back and be like, d*mn, that year he dropped My Elegant Breaking Point. I dropped a project, EP called Reverie this year, he dropped Reverie, My Elegant Breaking Point, The Man With No Face, I Cn't Find The Moon, and one more at the end of the year. But like, it's just like, I want, I just want it to be, it ma-, my music matters more than me, and I just want it, I like, I like it to just exist. I want it to exist. And I don't want it to not exist. If that makes sense.
Yeah, you don't really want to keep it to yourself because it's like, you think it's good enough to make. If it's good enough to make, should be good enough to put out.
It's just like why not, you know. Like obviously I'm not going to put out an album a, a day, but I'm gonna like, I'm gonna show people what I can do and just keep throwing my feelings into the world. And if someone can catch it, they can, if they can't, they can't.
Ewan Pratt 24:28
Yeah, I feel like that's a, that's a great mindset towards it. Um, so-
Perry Maysun 24:33
It's not really about, I'm sorry. It's not really about I want to be the greatest artist ever. It's not about that bro. For me at least. It's about like, I want to be the greatest create, creator that I can be. I want to be the greatest creative, I want to create the best that I can. I don't really care about being at the top of a mountain. I just want to I want to really be at the top of my own mountain you know, I mean create if that, if that leads me to the biggest artist ever, whatever, or if it leads me to just a regular guy, whatever but I'm gonna give it my all, you know.
Ewan Pratt 25:02
That's, yeah. Um, yeah, I feel like how you said with like your album Rollouts too kind of pays testament that you're not just putting these albums out just because you have them like your last album you said you put a whole lot of stuff that wasn't just like the music out with it.
Perry Maysun 25:18
So much stuff, bro I wrote a short story, it was crazy.
Ewan Pratt 25:21
Yeah. So is that something you're gonna continue doing sort of like working on expressing your creativity outside of music, but still sort of like alongside music?
Perry Maysun 25:31
H*ll yeah. Every album will get, every album gets a website, not mixtape, every album will get a website.
Ewan Pratt 25:37
Nice, nice.
Perry Maysun 25:38
Every, every, every single song I ever drop will come with a poem. Mixtapes will be less dense roll outs than an album because when it comes to an album I really, bro, it's just, have you seen the websites?
Ewan Pratt 25:49
I have not seen the websites.
Perry Maysun 25:52
You got to look up manwithnoface.com There's a section of paint where I paint the entire album, manwithnoface.com. There's, so my whole concept was, was um, was what if you could look up yeezus.com and see where his mind was when he made that and look at everything he was doing and the, and the looks and the, the ideas and the concepts and stories behind the songs and poems and all these things, and I'm like, let me make a virtual exhibit of my music. And where my mind is when I made this project. So it's always there.
Ewan Pratt 26:19
Yeah this is amazing. I'm just scrolling through the art interpretations right now.
Perry Maysun 26:24
Scuba, Scuba and, Scuba and Muchi had some on there. Like, yeah, like those are ideas like that, like I'm gonna always carry that out. Like my plan is for every new website to carry the stuff over from the we-, last website, and then add two new things. So if you look on the website, if you look on myelegantbreakingpoint.com, there's four sections. On this site, on this, on themanwithnoface.com there's like seven sections. And then the next one like this, it's just it's just all about, I don't know, I'm just very passionate about the crea-, I'm talking about myself a lot, but I don't know if this is good or bad.
Ewan Pratt 26:54
I mean it's an interview, talk about you, talk about as much as you want. Yeah. It's for you. Yeah,
Perry Maysun 26:58
It's just like, it's just like, you know, just creating bro, it's just creating in all aspects like, I want to do movies. I want to do a bunch of stuff.
Ewan Pratt 27:09
No, yeah, and just looking at, like, just quickly flipping through themanwithnoface.com, I mean, you definitely got ideas. I'll say that like this is, I've never seen anything like this. This is like such a great idea. Sort of have like, I mean, it's out, it's definitely like alongside the album, but this could exist without, not without the album, but like, you don't need to hear the music to really feel what this album is trying to tell you.
Perry Maysun 27:32
The best part is, the best part is that we always, I mean I always drop the website before the album. So you can get a good like, oh, this is what I'm going into, like almost like a booklet.
Ewan Pratt 27:43
Yeah. And I, just these. I mean, I remember seeing it on your TikTok like, like glitter face that you had like all these photos. You're just really selling the vibe of the album. Um, you do music videos and stuff for your songs?
Perry Maysun 28:00
I do.
Ewan Pratt 28:00
Yeah, so is that something you've been doing sort of consistently or is that new with these new tracks?
Perry Maysun 28:06
Bruh, I've been doing music videos forever since I used to go by the name Young Juice. Um, I'm, I'm my, like that's my thing, bro. My, the person that shoots e-, every single video I've ever shot in like 17 videos, Tycho Burwell. Shout out Tycho Burwell. Shoots all my, he shoots my covers. Tycho Burwell shoots my covers, Tycho Burwell shoots my videos. Tycho Burwell is the mastermind behind all my visual art. We always creatively come up with it together. We got a video coming soon for this project. Tycho Burwell is a genius. Genius.
Ewan Pratt 28:35
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I love when there's, like, more than just the album to the music. I don't know if you uh, you ever messed with like, Because of The Internet, by Childish Gambino and all the extra stuff with that.
Perry Maysun 28:48
That's, that's what, that's what inspired everything I do. I'm not gonna lie.
Ewan Pratt 28:51
Yeah. Like the short films.
Perry Maysun 28:55
Inspired everything. Everything bruh.
Ewan Pratt 28:57
No, I mean, I, I think, I think you've done a good job of taking like, not his template, but like sort of the extras around it. But you've put your own twist on it. This website is, I can't believe I didn't see this before. I mean this is amazing.
Perry Maysun 29:12
Thank you bro. Did you, Did you see myelegantbreakingpoint.com?
Ewan Pratt 29:15
Um, I think I spelled it wrong.
Perry Maysun 29:18
It's more, it's more, it's less detailed. But it was the first of its kind, so it was cool.
Ewan Pratt 29:26
Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. This one only has four. Album and poetry. So you had, the interpretation was one of the new ones. I really liked that.
Perry Maysun 29:34
And the paint, and the paint.
Ewan Pratt 29:35
Yeah, you painting the album. Everybody go watch this on YouTube. Is this on your YouTube? Where can people find these videos and stuff?
Perry Maysun 29:42
Yeah, yeah. It's on, it's, uh-
Ewan Pratt 29:44
And like, like he said, manwithnoface.com and myelegantbreakingpoint.com.
Perry Maysun 29:50
So those are just gonna exist forever. Always exists. Cool stuff.
Ewan Pratt 29:54
Yeah. Other things outside of sort of like making music, um. I know you've done at least one performance but live performances. What do you, what is, what's your like situation with that? You doing it regularly or is it something you want to do more of?
Perry Maysun 30:10
I've only done, I've only done one. I want to do more. I have, I have, I have one coming up. I've done one. Um, just, I want to keep growing my audience so I can do bigger ones and like really connect with them. But I've done one. I've done one for now.
Ewan Pratt 30:23
Yeah. How was that for you? Do you feel like-
Perry Maysun 30:25
Fantastic. Shout out, shout out Annabelle, bro.
Ewan Pratt 30:28
Yeah.
Perry Maysun 30:29
Annabelle Cline. At that good.
Ewan Pratt 30:33
Yeah, I want to get an interview with her, but I don't know, I don't even know how I'd go about putting her name on here. But yeah. It's crazy.
Perry Maysun 30:42
They really censor, they really censoring you bro.
Ewan Pratt 30:42
I know. It's just like, I feel like it's only really an issue for the hip hop, like, department to because I'm doing the underground. I feel like everyone else is just playing like indie rock. They don't have to edit songs. I have to sit here and like spend an hour every week editing songs and stuff. Yeah, so-
Perry Maysun 31:00
Oh uh, you, my songs are probably very difficult.
Ewan Pratt 31:03
Yeah, yeah not gonna lie. If you got clean edits, or if you're trying to make some, send them, send them my way. I'll put them on the radio.
Perry Maysun 31:10
Bruh, I might just send you all my al-, if you really gonna play it like that bruh I'll send you my whole album.
Ewan Pratt 31:15
No, definitely. If you, if you do that cause,um. Yeah, I'm the underground director. So I'm sort of in charge of like, what goes on the radio when there's no DJs in the studio, sort of like curating for like after hours. So I'd be uploading music everyday basically. Yeah, I mean, it does suck to be, like you said, censored out here really lacks but I mean, it's a radio. What are you going to do.
Perry Maysun 31:38
This in, in? 2020, in 2022? Doesn't make, it doesn't make sense.
Ewan Pratt 31:43
Yeah, FCC.
Perry Maysun 31:47
Take what you can get right?
Ewan Pratt 31:51
Yeah. So yeah, live performances. You want to do more of that? That wasn't, I mean, how do you feel like, would you try to have a special take on live performances too, because you definitely have a different take on album rollout? If you're like, headlining a show.
Perry Maysun 32:04
When I'm headlining, yeah, when it's my show, yeah. But until then, I'm, it's, it's I don't have the money to do what I want to do, but I will, I will do it differently. But for now, I'm just gonna like, because it's not about me when I'm performing like opening for someone. I kinda just want to give my energy my all and then, I think and like move on. But when it's my show by itself, bro? H*ll yeah.
Ewan Pratt 32:26
Yeah, that's gotta be like, just a special feeling just to be performing music. I don't know like how that show was but just-
Perry Maysun 32:32
It was beautiful.
Ewan Pratt 32:33
-have audience receive it well.
Perry Maysun 32:34
It was beautiful bro.
Ewan Pratt 32:40
Yeah, so right now it seems like you're still just kind of trying to get shows where you can, which is fair. I mean, I feel like that's one of the harder things to break into as an underground artist.
Perry Maysun 32:49
Nah for sure.
Ewan Pratt 32:49
Is live shows.
Perry Maysun 32:52
For sure.
Ewan Pratt 32:53
I mean, if it's your first one, I was gonna ask if you had like rituals or things you did before? But if you like-
Perry Maysun 32:58
Got drunk.
Ewan Pratt 32:58
-got one. Well, yeah, that probably helps, honestly. Feeling yourself a little bit, and nod your head.
Perry Maysun 33:05
Um, yeah, that's probably it. Yeah, I got drunk and just, I was the first one on.
Ewan Pratt 33:09
Oh, oh, that's gonna be nerve racking.
Perry Maysun 33:13
Yeah, it worked though.
Ewan Pratt 33:13
It was, it was how many people, 3, 4?
Perry Maysun 33:16
Uh, I don't want to get it wrong, I don't want to miss anybody. Let me tell you exactly who it was. Hold on.
Ewan Pratt 33:24
It was you, Dizz, Wabo.
Perry Maysun 33:27
It was me, Dizz, Wabo, Frank Sativa, DDK, Just Xavier, and Dre Waves.
Ewan Pratt 33:34
Oh wow.
Perry Maysun 33:34
And Annabelle. Annabelle was on a DJ.
Ewan Pratt 33:37
Oh, nice, nice. Yeah, I just got into mixing, like live mixing, that, it's so fun. I don't know if you've tried that. But it's really fun.
Perry Maysun 33:45
I have not. I will try though, eventually. I can't lie, I want to try it too.
Ewan Pratt 33:49
Yeah, I feel like that's, that's just like a natural progression on the production arc. Once you complete the production arc you get into the live live DJ arc.
Perry Maysun 33:55
Exactly.
Ewan Pratt 33:58
Yeah, so, I mean, I saw, I don't know if you posted it today. But today was sort of like a milestone with the 10k on TikTok. I think, um, that was almost like a year after starting. So that was like a year from last year. You grew so much. Where do you see yourself in a year from now?
Perry Maysun 34:15
Um, 20K on Instagram, with a deal. I have to be living on my own, or I won't. Because I don't want to live with my mom to be honest, because she said I could live with her but I just, I feel embarrassed because I'm 20 bruh I gotta get it done. I'm living with my dad right now. I see myself, I have my own apartment, bro. Getting a deal and going to Alaska to make my first record deal album.
Ewan Pratt 34:47
To Alaska. Why they're specifically?
Perry Maysun 34:49
Just always wanted to go to Alaska. I like the cold. I like that it's dark.
Ewan Pratt 34:53
On some like, on some like Ye vibes, like travel to make an album and in a location.
Perry Maysun 34:58
Exactly. Also cuz it's dark. Like in the winter, Alaska is dark, like 80% of the day. So that's,-
Ewan Pratt 35:05
Yeah, yeah.
Perry Maysun 35:06
-I really liked the dark. So it's, Alaska would be beautiful.
Ewan Pratt 35:10
Yeah, I guess-
Perry Maysun 35:10
For sure.
Ewan Pratt 35:11
-I guess it will definitely put a vibe in the music.
Perry Maysun 35:13
Yeah bruh. I'm exci-, I want to do that. I really want to do that. I think everything's gonna take off in the next year bro. I hope so I can really live off this sh*t. I can really live off this.
Ewan Pratt 35:24
Yeah, I think I mean, if you keep going how you're going this year, because, I mean, you said you changed names, but you started Perry Maysun sort of like, 2021 right?
Perry Maysun 35:34
Oh, right whenn 2020 ended I would say. 2020.
Ewan Pratt 35:38
Yeah, I mean, so from 2021 to 2022 with like, 2022 gonna have three albums and a mixtape, I feel like, if you keep the trajectory up. You definitely-
Perry Maysun 35:47
This is just the first full year but I had to run it, bro. This is the first full year Perry Maysun, like front to back year, 12 months. I just was like, nah, I gotta do this, bro because I can do it. I can. I want to show people who Perry Maysun is. I want to bury Young Juice.
Ewan Pratt 36:00
Yeah. So where did where did the Perry Maysun name come from?
Perry Maysun 36:05
I was just very intoxicated. And I came up with it when I was talking to my friend and I phone. I was like, I want to make music and I want to be 100% genuine. Let's make a name. What sounds like a name that will be playing stadiums. And I said Perry Maysun.
Ewan Pratt 36:19
I mean true, true. Um-
Perry Maysun 36:22
No cockiness though. No cockiness though.
Ewan Pratt 36:25
I mean, now's the time right? In an interview about you. The same way they did too. Yeah, so I've sort of just gone through all the questions I had prepared. Anything you want to talk about specifically? That we haven't really touched on?
Perry Maysun 36:41
Mixtape coming soon man.
Ewan Pratt 36:43
Yeah, mixtape coming soon. You said you're, got a higher percentage of, like, the beats you're producing on it, got more mix, or got more features on it, too.
Perry Maysun 36:52
I've never produced a single song on a project before. I produced three on here, which is cool as heck, cool as heck.
Ewan Pratt 37:01
Yeah and that's out Halloween?
Perry Maysun 37:04
Are you going to, let me ask you a question. Are you going to keep doing interviews after college?
Ewan Pratt 37:07
Um, I don't know. I've been thinking about that. Because, I mean, the main thing I've been doing with like the alt rap pipeline is the radio show, like weekly on Mondays. So if I'm not like at the studio, I can't play it on the radio. I don't know what I'm, uh, I feel like once I'm out of college, I feel like just doing the interviews might be better than just the radio show, if that makes sense. Because I don't have like, it's easier to do an interview on my own then, like, get an entire radio station.
Perry Maysun 37:32
You should keep doing the interviews. Interviews are cool bruh. Are you gonna post it on YouTube?
Ewan Pratt 37:36
Yeah, so I think first what I'm going to do is it's going to air on, on the radio, um, and then we're gonna rip it down and put it on as a podcast on our website.
Perry Maysun 37:46
Do people, do a lot of people be listening to the, to your college radio?
Ewan Pratt 37:49
I mean, yeah, the thing is, like, since it is over the radio, it's hard for us to like get a sense of how many people are listening. We have a web stream, and we can get like, numbers for that. But we are like, for as college radios go, we're one of the biggest college radios in America. I think we are like 10th in terms of range with like, just like pure like distance, how much we cover in North Carolina. And just like where we're situated. I don't know if you know much about North Carolina, but we're in Raleigh, which is the Capitol. And then, we're in an area called the triangle. So there's like three super big college towns right next to Raleigh, and our radio reaches all of them. So it's like-
Perry Maysun 38:24
That's mad cool.
Ewan Pratt 38:25
-prime location.
Perry Maysun 38:25
Do you, do you like announce the songs before you play them?
Ewan Pratt 38:28
Yeah we do like, little air breaks. Um, I'll sort of like, depending on the song, I don't do it for everyone, you know what I mean, but like every three songs, if like I wanted to talk about a certain song, I'll like, do it for that one. Yeah.
Perry Maysun 38:41
That's mad cool.
Ewan Pratt 38:43
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it should be on the blog within two weeks releasing this, I also have another one I gotta edit. So just sort of like going through that and like, I got college. So still through classes.
Perry Maysun 38:56
No, yeah. I feel you. Thank you bro. I do want to just say, even if we're gonna keep talking, I just want to say thank you, because like, it's really nice when people are down to shine light on artists like me trying to make it work.
Ewan Pratt 39:08
Yeah, I mean, if you like, I don't have the biggest platform. It is like a little niche area, the college radio scene but I mean, if got it, I feel like I want to shine it on someone that, like you. I feel like you're doing it for the right reason. And you're putting sort of like your all into it. I mean, rather do that, help you out than someone else, you know what I mean?
Perry Maysun 39:26
Yeah, bro, thank you, bro. I really, even, no matter even if, even if you had one person listening, bro. It's just like, you decided to show love to me. And I really appreciate that.
Ewan Pratt 39:35
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've sort of been lacking on the like reaching out to people on social media side with the radio show. But I mean, I've been playing your stuff for a while. I know I haven't really vocalize that. It's hard for artists to really realize that we're doing that. But yeah, so it was kind of, kind of cool for you to hit me back to like mutual respect. Thank you for hitting, hitting me back and agreeing to this.
Perry Maysun 39:54
Of course bro. Of course, of course.
Ewan Pratt 39:56
Yeah, and it's just it's really cool, I feel like, just in general, a lot of the underground scene that you're coming out of like, like you said, like Frank Sativa, Scuba. Young Wabo, everyone there is just so like welcoming, so nice. It seems like not what I would expect for like rap, if that makes sense.
Perry Maysun 40:13
What you m-?
Ewan Pratt 40:14
I don't know, I feel like, I don't know, I feel like everyone's just trying to help each other out. It's not really about like beefing with each other to get bigger. It's just like everyone's in it together. Everyone's so nice. I met Wabo in person so nice. Nicest dude ever, just like-
Perry Maysun 40:28
Really nice guy. Yeah, love Wabo.
Ewan Pratt 40:31
yeah, whereas, I don't know, once you get into bigger rap it's more like oh, I'm bigger than you, I don't even need to be talking to you, stuff like that. You know, just like acting. I don't know. I feel like rap is a, mainstream app, rap at least is such a like a cocky genre. Some people like, their character of their artists, I don't know, just like sticks more you know.
Perry Maysun 40:50
Nah, I know what you mean, I know what you mean.
Ewan Pratt 40:50
They're playing a character more than anything sometimes.
Perry Maysun 40:53
I know what you mean. No, it's, I feel you.
Ewan Pratt 41:00
Yeah, sweet. Okay, I think it's a good time to wrap it up. Before you want to sort of shout out your social medias, mixtape, all that sort of stuff, where people can find you?
Perry Maysun 41:08
Uh, you can find me at P E R R Y M A Y S U N or Perry Maysun, on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, SoundCloud, Spotify, Apple music, wherever you do anything. Can find me there, under the name Perry Maysun. So yeah, that's it.
Ewan Pratt 41:29
Yep.
Perry Maysun 41:30
New, new mixtape. I Can't Find The Moon, October 31. Man, It's gonna be great.
Ewan Pratt 41:36
Yeah, everyone's looking forward to that, again by the time you hear this, one of the songs from that will already be out. Go check out Perry Maysun.
Perry Maysun 41:44
Binasu with, Binasu featuring Tec, produced by Noqh.
Ewan Pratt 41:48
Yeah, you heard it there. Yeah, we're gonna keep, hopefully, keep hearing more from you. The up and coming, keep some eyes on you with how you grew up. But yeah, thank you again for coming on the alt rap pipeline.
Perry Maysun 41:59
Of course bro, of course. Appreciate you having me.
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