Off the Record

Sidd Ekkad 0:00
Hey guys, this is Sidd Ekkad with WKNC, your favorite student run school podcast off the record. And I'm here today with Saturnalias!

So can you guys just kind of tell me about yourselves and like, all the different stuff you guys are doing with 47 Eyez on Me and then your own work and some of the stuff that's come out recently.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 0:26
For those of you who don't know, 47 Eyez On Me is a record label and collective made by Shall we said, that is Joey Zen. He's a rapper, I helped co-found the record label with him. And we we have a lot of artists from around the Raleigh area, and generally in North Carolina right now. And we make a lot of music that spans many genres. One of those genres is our hardcore shoegaze band set an alias. I write all the music for that. And here with me is my guitarist, Luca, and my OB vocalist, Rayna Phillips. They also do their own music as well. And they can tell you a bit about that right now.

Luca Morena 1:22
Yes, so my name is Luca Mureno. I'm from Venezuela, I moved here almost a year ago, we actually I think, a little bit over a year ago. And I joined 47 Eyes On Me by starting playing with started playing with Alex. And then in March of this year, Isa, the drummer for Saturn, alias, and me, we started our own project. It's called Stan y Denghy. And our style is very different from Saturnalias. It is the same members in the band. So it's, it's very interesting. Our style could be described as a reggae, funk, line inspired band, we also play a lot of indie rock, and we would sometimes do covers, but our main focus is in original music, and our influences are very, very broad to

Sidd Ekkad 2:09
Awesome! Yeah!

Castle (Rayna) 2:10
I'm Rayna Phillips. I'm the lead vocals for Alex. Although that might be questionable. We share that responsibility pretty well. And I do backup vocals for Stan y Denghy. But I joined 47 Eyez On Me in February. Yeah, I think February. And Joey, our founder, he recruited me through. We've known each other for years, we met in Spanish class our freshman year. So it's been a long time coming big part of his project. Don't have any music of my own outright now. But spending a lot of time with these guys. And just working on band stuff. It's been really awesome.

Sidd Ekkad 2:49
That's great to hear. Great to hear this. So we're gonna kind of dive into this. And the the first questions that I want to kind of go over or like, yesterday, you had a show where you guys there as well, or? Yeah, we were all you guys had a show at pinhook, I believe. And how did that go? Was that how did it go? Like, what were the vibes like?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 3:10
That show was one of our smaller shows, but at one of the biggest venues we've played at so far, and it combined to be very, very fun. We got along with the other bands that played with us very well, we kind of just instantly hit it off. And we loved how everyone sounded. We there was probably only like 20 people and we still Mosh it's true. So shout out to the band day and dream for Nashville. And Tiger Beach from Raleigh. A lot of you may have heard of, it was very fun. Everything sounded pretty good, because they have a very high fidelity, fidelity setup over there in downtown Durham. You know,

Sidd Ekkad 3:53
What can you guys kind of like speak on about that show and like how everything kind of went?

Luca Morena 3:58
It was probably one of our best sounding shows on it. Yeah, for real, it was a really good show.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 4:02
For us, the mixing was really good. And that's something that needs to be done very, we need a really good mix in order to sound at our best potential since there's a lot of interesting in different musical elements like we have a very unorthodox setup in terms of how we arrange our sounds and stuff.

Luca Morena 4:19
Yeah, we use interesting pedals and like amps and mixes, and there's a lot of things going on. Even though even the vocals, Alex runs some very very heavy effects on his vocals and it sounds really good but thankfully pinhook has that greater food system and sound guy so we're able to

Sidd Ekkad 4:38
That's great. That's great to hear. I really wish I pulled through yesterday I was really I was looking forward to it. I think a bunch of last minute stuff came up but it would have been really nice. So kind of moving in kind of talking about your most recent LP your self titled I kind of it was really like shocking to me because I think listening to a lot A lot of different artists from around here they primarily root themselves at r&b and rap, but like, you kind of blur that line a lot, especially and you pick your own sounds. And so how did you kind of tap into that kind of sound? Especially after doubling down from your last LP as well?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 5:15
So yeah, I don't really, I don't really make Rap music. Yeah, it was never really gonna happen, but I do enjoy producing for fun. And so, each album I've done, I, you know, I was just like, you know, just for fun, I'm gonna have because like, I'm in a predominantly hip hop record label. I'm like, dude, we'll throw a rap song on there that can somewhat blend with everything else. But so it's very atmospheric stuff. It's primarily rooted in like, doing crazy stuff with like delay, sound effects and very high reverb. I mean, that's basically the key to it. I use Ableton my music, production skills and like work right kind of just skyrocketed when I bought Ableton about a year ago right before I made planet Philistine. And yeah, I would just my, my songwriting process is I just am in my room with a focus right, and inukai and Edie and my guitar and my bass, and sometimes drums. I just, have you been in our song?

Yeah. Another really important thing about your sound is the tuning in the guitars, yes. And alternate tunings. Yes, it changes us. Maybe like three or four alternate tunings, when for the last set that we played, for example, yesterday, and that changes everything.

Sidd Ekkad 6:48
And is it like very tangible notice? Or do you think it's like very subtle? And do you think like people who are more instrumentally tuned, they noticed?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 6:55
Yeah, I don't even think someone who like plays. I mean, like, people who don't play music, and probably notice how different it sounds, especially compared to like, I'm glad you brought up like stuff that sounds like from this area, because most bands are yeah, like hip hop and r&b and stuff. But most rock bands are also like, very rooted in like blues and bluegrass and that stuff here. And that's not really my cultural. I've been, like, part of why I've released my music and stuff is because I'd like to kind of create a community around stuff that's not just that around this area. So

Sidd Ekkad 7:36
that's good to hear. I mean, I think just like conveying your background, and like, really like, putting a part of yourself in that music is like integral to creating anything, honestly. So it's really good that you are emphasizing that in your music, and you're not trying to stray away from that too much. So the first part, I'm going to definitely like try to dissect parts of this album for sure. But I think one of the main things that and I can definitely apply that to a lot of your single covers and your planet Philistine covers this cover. It's really stunning. It's really great. Is, is there like any meaning behind it? Did you make it yourself?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 8:08
Yeah. I make all my own cover art. That's just how I like to do it because I I like making collages and stuff. And so obviously, that one's a collage. As if there's any meaning. The centerpiece of the of the collage is a statue in Japan called the Sendai Daikon, you. I did not pronounce that very well, I think that's what it's called. I can go into like, Oh, what is this blah, blah, blah, you can just look it up, send it down. But basically, I'm just a big fan of like Eastern philosophy and thought and that's just kind of a theme sometimes with my lyrics. So that's why that was like the centerpiece of the collage. And the rest was just kind of stuff that I thought was aesthetically pleasing. I know. There's like a lot of snow in the cover art. I'm from New York, and it used to just be snowing all the time over there. I'm standing here.

Sidd Ekkad 9:10
That's great to hear. No, it's like I definitely like was just like that really popped out to me like the first time I like look through it. And like the day it came out. I like look through it. And I was like, oh my gosh is like very like this is like really stunning. Because it's not like simplistic. It's more in your face. And I like you don't see that too often. Because I think a lot of people Yes,

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 9:28
I do put some thought into the cover art for sure. I don't really talk about it much. But yeah,

Sidd Ekkad 9:32
yeah, that's, that's great. That's awesome. Yeah. And so kind of moving into the sound. What were like these recording sessions like because I could really feel like there was a lot of emotion and like, as we kind of talked about a part of yourself that was into it. So what would you say like what were the sessions like other than like, did you go like beyond your room sometimes and like record in other people's houses or?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 9:55
No? It was all of the record. wording I've done for both albums has been done in a premium ADHD fashion. I just pick a day where I have enough time about like at least eight hours to just sit down for at least eight hours straight, and just record in my room. And probably about 80% of my songs I make up just at my desk, like, yeah, and then I'll spend like four or five hours just finishing it. The last two songs I made for the last album, appetite for distraction, and then also the song called you have 30 minutes to make a song. I made both of those songs in four hours, the night that I put it through distro kid to get released on Spotify, because I was like, I need two more songs. So it's very ADHD, like, I'll just go like, a week or two without doing anything. You know, what's

Luca Morena 10:54
You know, what's really funny is that we're in this band, and we spend time with him. We play all of your shows, but I've never heard this, this part of the story. And it's very interesting about this stuff, because I just like, that's, it's so very cool story. So yeah, now you know,

Castle (Rayna) 11:12
Now the last 20% of the time that he's recording, he does leave his room to go into the living room. And that's when I go to record my vocals.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 11:21
I do invite Rayna over to record a lot. And that is also kind of an idiot chief question because we got to pick a time where we can sit down for at least an hour.

Castle (Rayna) 11:31
What's not that bad? Why don't you give me at least two hours heads up?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 11:35
Yeah, I mean, yeah, terrible. She comes in, she does a fantastic job.

And you do record drums in the Milky Way, which is our rehearsal space,

Our drums are recorded a mixture of live and programmed.

Sidd Ekkad 11:47
No, they do sound like very industrious, like explains a lot. But especially when you're listening to one of the tracks that actually mentioned here that really stood out to me, because it was very, like dramatically different from like, the rest of the tracklist was retired. Because it feels very like driven. It's not like very it's the other songs I wouldn't say are lacks, but they're like very like free flowing. They all flow into each other. But then like randomly in the middle of that tracklist and you have retired and it just hits you and like that, because that's literally how my experience was when I was listening. I was like, Oh my gosh, so like what was? Is that kind of what you were trying to emphasize with that track as well like the industrial field?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 12:19
Yeah, I don't know, I made retired, probably. I was actually I think the first song of the second album I actually ever made. So that probably explains why there's such a distinction between the way that that one sounds compared to the rest. I made retired last February, I believe, as a single. And then I re recorded it last summer. Which is why there are two different versions on streaming platforms. I don't know why it sounds so different. Honestly. I couldn't tell you. I know it has its own distinct tuning that I put it in. It's da de F sharp, E F sharp

For the nerds

Couldn't tell you, sorry.

Sidd Ekkad 13:04
No, it's great. Sometimes it just like fun to play.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 13:06
Yeah, very, very fun!

Castle (Rayna) 13:08
Isn't that the first song that I recorded with you. Yeah, at all. Yes. Yeah.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 13:13
And for that song, I don't really play. I just really enjoy to dance to that one

Castle (Rayna) 13:18
He's leading the mosh pit. Yeah, that's perfect.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 13:21
Exactly. So once on that I just go down to the stage and just scream.

Sidd Ekkad 13:25
Just wanna join everybody. Yeah,

Castle (Rayna) 13:27
we're each other's biggest fans.

Sidd Ekkad 13:30
That's good. You want to have like a bunch of really great peers that are just like around you that want to like support each other, especially people that are like, as creatively focused as you are. I think that's awesome.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 13:39
It's a very tight knit community. Yeah. Yeah.

Sidd Ekkad 13:41
It's great to have it, that's awesome. And then kind of moving into like, the meaning of the album. We kind of touched on this briefly, but like, what is the intended narrative of this album? Like, how does it kind of build upon like planet Philistine? And just what does it say kind of about you?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 13:58
So Planet Philistine was basically lyrically, just like most of the songs were just like, stories about like, a certain day that I had and like maybe that like a day that I had had that stood out to me or something like that. And it was pretty lame stuff like nothing too crazy that I wrote about. And it was a lot about also like you know, like ever since I've moved to Raleigh, I haven't like it's not been like my favorite kind of cultural misplacement with like living in Raleigh, North Carolina. And, but I think I write about a lot more meaningful stuff, I guess in the second album. I think what I wrote about was the things that I actually want to write about in this latest album, which is just things about like, I don't know my philosophical viewpoint on like life and stuff, as well as like, you know, I have songs that are just rambling on.

Sidd Ekkad 15:01
As it should be, as it should be.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 15:03
Stuff is about like, yeah, like I said, like, I'm a big fan of Eastern philosophy. And it's like, very optimistic nihilism.

Sidd Ekkad 15:12
That's an interesting way to put it.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 15:15
I'm also kind of optimistic. So I tried to reflect on the sound.

Sidd Ekkad 15:20
I definitely could see that because it definitely like the what we kind of talked about about like, the changes in narrative throughout the tracklist as you're going along, but like, by the end, you kind of reached this like very lukewarm, melancholy feeling, which is really, which I definitely like can see that in the way they album. And that kind of goes into the way it's like ordered, because I was gonna say, there's a lot of really great transitions between each track. Ibuprofen was a song that I enjoyed, like as a single, but then the transition into pronounce. Correct me if I pronounced this not Halli Galli, bitch, right? I had to, like realize that like, I've moved into a different song,

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 15:57
Tell him about the influence. And what where do you got that?

Castle (Rayna) 16:01
That's a good song,

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 16:02
It's by a band called Parcels.

Alex, I showed him this band, and he hated it, for some reason. In the entire history of my life, the earliest this album, and most of the, almost all the songs are like connected, and they just flow through perfectly. It's a live album, in the same way, exactly what I got. So when I heard that for the first time, I was like, Wow, you really just did that. And I, it sounds so good.

Sidd Ekkad 16:30
Its sounds great. Like it was seamless, like, I was like, Oh my gosh, this is like totally. And you wouldn't get that from listening to single. So like, you like I would never have assumed like, Oh, this is going to flow into another song. But then it does. And you're like, oh my gosh, this is crazy. Yeah, it's

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 16:44
The Parcels album. I was like, this kind of sucks. But these transitions are insane. And it goes from one song to the next in the blink of an eye. And I was like, I wonder how you do that. And so I was like, Oh, you must do blah, blah, blah on like Ableton. And so I figured it out pretty quickly. And I was like, Yeah, I'll just do that.

Sidd Ekkad 17:06
Was that like, always the plan? Or did it like kind of just happened to happen?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 17:09
I was like rerecording Ibuprofen. And then I started playing around with some chords that were in the same key. And that's when I was like, Okay, this is good enough to be a whole new song. And I was like, Okay, this is just gonna be the second song. Oh, that's great. Yeah. And that's how we play it live. Now, we just basically played all like, it's one song.

Sidd Ekkad 17:27
That's awesome. So it's like, yeah, it's like it kind of like I said, almost, it's like, that's great to see. Yeah. So kind of moving into more tracks that I really enjoyed. And this can kind of apply to you now is, I noticed like a lot of the background vocals on tracks like Floater as well as Some Nights and like, he, and then you also have like, I wouldn't say a posse cut almost towards the like, in Some Nights where it's just like people rapping and singing all over the song. And it's like, what is it like to hear like, other artists saying on your instruments and your instrumentals? Like, how does it feel?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 18:01
I don't know. It's very weird. Like, sometimes. I'm gonna, like, be totally honest. Like, sometimes I'll listen to it and I'll be like, This is terrible. Listen to it, like a few more times, and I'm like, Okay, now this is actually really good. Which is, that was my response to when we recorded some nights. I was like, Okay, this is like, okay, but then I listened to it a few more times. I was like, this is very good. And so like, yeah, Joey can tell you I was like, Joey, I need you to redo some parts. But then I was like, actually, like, that's for something. I had the three cousins do that. That's Joey and his cousin JRC. And Dominic, his rapper name is Finesse Tha Phantom. I had those three on there. I actually don't do any vocals on there. But now whenever they make a song, the three of them it's like, they're all like, it's very organized, but it sounds like very disorganized. Like some guy talking. Singing but it's very interesting.

Sidd Ekkad 19:04
So there's like some comfort in that like there's like, like some comfort in chaos.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 19:07
Just make that work seamlessly over like my instrumentals is the main reason why I've been able to collaborate so much with Joey in the other rappers sometimes in 47

Sidd Ekkad 19:19
That's, that's great to hear. Ya know, I can definitely imagine that is like a little bit surreal, kind of like stepping back for a second and letting other people like kind of like pick their like path. You let them like pick their own path, like on their beat.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 19:31
I didn't tell them to do anything in specific when I gave the instrumental to them, but also that wasn't entirely produced by me. That was actually a lot of the production was JRC. I just did the melody and stuff. And we had this guy go crazy on the keys. Colton Hurley, he's a jazz pianist. Yeah, it I actually I really don't have that much experience with giving my music to other people and seeing what they do with it. That's like a Pretty, pretty rare example, but I think we'll see more of that in the future. I'm starting to do that with them.

Sidd Ekkad 20:05
It's good. Yeah. And if there was like, Are there any artists like around like locally, maybe in 47 eyes and outside like that you would want to, like collaborate with,

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 20:17
I collaborate a lot with KATA. Already, I've made two songs with him, and I don't know what it is, but my style of music just seems to blend very well with his rapping. So I'm probably going to do that more in the future. But I know, I want to maybe collaborate a little bit with Joey's cousin Dominic, because he likes hardcore music as well. But I also definitely want to just keep writing my own stuff and then maybe find people from like, I don't know, out of state like that do crazy stuff. Someday.

Sidd Ekkad 20:54
Ya know, that's awesome. Yeah, no, like, so like, I feel like there's like still so much more to explore, like, even within this circle, before even like moving out. That's awesome. Yeah. I'm so kind of moving back into the album. So I noticed that you wrote most of the lyrics with Reina as well. Like, there's a few songs where she has like, like, separate credits as well. And on, especially on silhouette and retired. So like, what's like that, like, feeling of like working off each other and like writing these lyrics? Like, do you guys like ever like come into like creative like disagreements? Or do you? Like kind of like flow well together pretty honestly.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 21:31
Ah, with like, singing?

Castle (Rayna) 21:34
I was gonna say, I think no, on this album. So for this album, he pretty much just gave me the song. It was like, sing it like I sing it. And sometimes I was like, alright, fine. And sometimes I was like, I'm not gonna do that.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 21:49
I asked Rayna to do her own thing. And she does very well. Thanks, bro. There's this song i 100k marathon. I very much regret not having her on there. Because we do live with her. And it sounds so much better. It's true. But yes, I wrote all the lyrics, if I miscommunicated that in the Spotify credits, but that was just me crediting her singing.

Castle (Rayna) 22:10
But I have been writing my own music. Yeah, in preparation for hopefully once school lightens up a little bit to put out my own music. So that will be something that we have more time to work on together in the future. Just for this album, we were on a time crunch.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 22:27
Yeah, yeah, I think I think there's a lot of potential for us to collaborate with each other, though, like you're saying, because I read her lyrics before and they're various, like, they seem like they're very stream of consciousness, kind of like mine.

Sidd Ekkad 22:40
Yeah, that stream of consciousness is like that seems to be like a very, like strict like people are emphasizing that more than ever, especially with a lot of like female vocalist nowadays, like you can see like, a random example. But like Taylor Swift is becoming a lot more self reflective. You have like Phoebe Bridgers, Mitski, all these people. And so it's like, would you say that like those people like that makes you feel a lot more comfortable? Kind of like putting this out there because you feel like that's like starting to become a bit more like emphasize in like the modern culture.

Castle (Rayna) 23:07
Oh, yeah, for sure. And honestly, I don't think I would have ever had the confidence or at least music at all, if I hadn't started playing with Alex. Like my style has become much more like dissonant shoegaze II just because I'm surrounded by all the time, but when I'm thinking of female artists to have a stream of consciousness that way, I think of Julian Baker, Lucy Dacus, like some great sort of background indie vocalists, even like Fiona Apple, Kate Bush, like those are the people that I take a lot of inspiration from and the way that they talk about their feelings. So yeah, that's a skill that I'm working on refining and Alex has helped me a lot with that, for sure.

Sidd Ekkad 23:47
It's awesome. Yeah, I look forward to seeing whatever you put out. I'm really I'll definitely be like, we're still like, take it out. Yeah, for sure. Excited.

Castle (Rayna) 23:53
Think of it as cool girl alt.

Sidd Ekkad 23:57
There's plenty of room for cool girl alt. And then. So kind of this is going to be kind of more of a question for all the instrumentalists it apply with vocalists. So like when did you guys realize you guys were tuned in to like the instruments you guys are playing or like even like vocalizing singing like when do you guys realize that? Like, this is like my true calling. Like, what is like this really came to me?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 24:22
I found that guitar was my thing or something like that? Yeah. Oh, I started playing guitar. I don't really remember why I wanted to start playing guitar. I remember I was really into junk for Shanthi and slash when I was a kid. So I got my first guitar 13 years ago was a very, very bad little toy. But I've just been playing ever since. And I did do some lessons. And probably around three years ago, I picked it up again because I was slacking with school and high school, whatever. I really didn't put much time into that and I wasn't really there wasn't really a big community. This was back in Venezuela by the way. There was ain't really a big community to jam or to perform with the former band that does not exist there, sadly. But so I picked it up almost three years ago just started playing by myself, like a lot of people do here. And when I moved here, and I found these guys, it's, it all just exploded again. You know, I brief found this true passion in my playing has improved. I was really bad three years ago. thing has improved a lot since and I also play drums. And I've also started to sing with Stan y Dengy probably probably been singing for like, a couple of months. Yeah.

Well, I mean, I've been playing on a different instruments for a really long time. Basically, for the last like, just on average, I've played a lot of stuff for the last like eight years, at least. guitar and drums, more like 10. But I grew up playing piano like a proper Asian kid with violin but yeah, I ultimately wanted to be an American rock star. Yeah, I was like I wanted to like be in a band and like, make my own music since I was like, 12. Very bad. But you and I have a very similar kind of experience with that. So we've got like, nobody in my school, like really played anything. And like, we all kind of had the same. Very not out there music tastes and stuff. And so it was like, and there, there's just no opportunities. And so it wasn't, that's why it wasn't until I get went to college that this stuff really started happening. And it happened very fast. So that just goes to show how productive having a, like a community of people that are music enjoyers can go I mean, it's, you know, it's crazy. It feels great. Yeah, it feels amazing. We started this record label basically, like, two two years ago. But like, we haven't really started doing anything until about like a year, year and a half ago. And it's like, we're doing shows all the time. And we know lots of people and we can talk to them about that stuff. So it goes a long way. And so I think it's very important that people like support their musical like institutions and stuff. Because it's kind of rare around here.

Sidd Ekkad 27:32
Only for sure. It's great, it's kind of like you guys all kind of brought it out of each other to like, push you guys like like the next level on.

Castle (Rayna) 27:40
All of a sudden we had like a purpose. And being musicians wasn't just like, oh, yeah, this is something that I kind of do in my bedroom quietly. And then like it was like, Okay, I'm surrounded by a group of people that are like equally as motivated to make something new and exciting and interesting.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 27:55
It all grew from something really small. Like when I moved here, I started playing with Eastside restaurants with Lister, he is an artist from Venezuela to and he makes a couple of covers in Latin music just very relaxed. And that's how we started, you know, playing at restaurants. And now it's grown into this. So like, it's not something that

Castle (Rayna) 28:17
yeah, no, that's what, yes, that's 1000 people in a couple of weeks. That's crazy.

Sidd Ekkad 28:23
That's gonna be insane.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 28:24
Guys, I'm just trying to say this is how far you can go. If you just spend some time on the side, just saying.

Castle (Rayna) 28:31
If you're willing to make 15 cents an hour for the amount of work that you do about it.

Sidd Ekkad 28:41
And just kind of also, how did you kind of like, realize that like you love singing and like, this is something you want to like, take?

Castle (Rayna) 28:49
Sure. So I come from a classical background. I was an art performer and Middle School in high school. My sophomore year of high school, I was adjudicated by the State Board and ranked superior, which was like a big deal for my choral department. Yeah, my name is on a plaque somewhere forever. I don't know where I'm going to tell you but it's somewhere in some government building. And that was great. You know, it was constant musical enrichment. I did make some good friends in that environment. But I had never played in a band before. And this situation I was just sort of like, thrown into all of a sudden Joey asked me to help him sing backups for one of his songs. And then I met Alex at some point, he and I were taking the same jazz class actually. So at some point, once I started helping Joey out, I met Alex and he was like, you should just try, like here. Just have one of my songs and go, go sing it to your heart's content. That was Planet Philistine. I was playing. Yeah. That was the original Saturnalias song that I helped out with and then I showed up to rehearsal one day and I did it and Alex kind of looked at me and he was like, Okay, that was kind of Good, like super skeptical.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 30:02
It's really funny how you say it was found firstly, because for us it was also for me and Isa when we joined. It was also planning for a scene. We didn't even know what we were gonna do. We just met these guys. And they're like, yeah, so we got the show in Greensboro and like, a couple of weeks. Do you want to play with us? And we're like, Yeah, sure. I didn't even know what shoegaze was until I played it with Alex. And now I'm, you know,

Castle (Rayna) 30:24
If anyone's looking for the sound that define Saturnalias, start with Planet Philistine. That's, yeah, that's our route. But I sort of I realized that I needed to find a way to make music my life the first concert I went to, I was 10. It was Kelly Clarkson. She was so awesome. I mean, so awesome. American Idol does not do her justice at all. So I left there, and I looked at my mom in tears. I remember this like, vividly. And I was like, That is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And I was talking about Kelly Clarkson. Yeah, no. Now I've seen I saw this year, I saw Tim and Paula live. I saw a beach house live shake. Well, I saw home shake live. Yeah. So I've been to some really great shows. And by constantly on the weekends that I'm not playing, I'm seeing. So there's always some sort of like, that's a cool sound. I like that. Let me take inspiration from that. Or this is a cool person I just met who wants me to help them on their project. Why not? So I'm finding all of these thresholds now, where like, music isn't just, you know, A far off dream. It's like, this is something that I can start climbing the stairs towards now. And it's only because I met these guys.

Sidd Ekkad 31:33
Yeah, like right in front of your eyes. It's tangible. Now, that's how easy it is.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 31:37
Yeah, I want to kind of just stress like, I don't want to overdo this question. But I really want to stress we did not like anyone, like, I don't have connections. Anyone know, like now? I had to do so much like just reaching out to people. And we still do. Yeah, we still do have to do that all the time. But like, I remember there was one night I sent probably 60 emails to like just music websites and venues and all this stuff. Probably like one of them responded. So keep grinding. It's really about like amazing music you have to make well

Castle (Rayna) 32:11
It's about release. It's about releasing music and also kind of being annoyingly extroverted.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 32:19
Oh, yeah, it's no one's gonna go looking for you.

Castle (Rayna) 32:22
You know, for real, you cannot be afraid to just walk up to someone and be like, Hey, I know who you are. And I like what you do. Let's talk about exactly.

Sidd Ekkad 32:29
That's it's Yeah. And that can be really intimidating to some people. So like building that skill, like on top of like already having musical skills. I can't even imagine like the type of like transitions, you guys are going through, like life wise with this music. Yeah, it's insane.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 32:42
I can only say it's good. It's been good for me. Yeah. Really extroverted when I moved in here at first, but now but as you said, like by having music as a tool to make connections. And by wanting to reach out to express all these things. It's helped me a lot. So I think it's only a good thing. Yeah,

Sidd Ekkad 33:01
That's awesome. I'm really glad to hear this. Like, it's great. Just like kind of saying, I can't wait to see where you guys go from here. So kind of also, you guys mentioned like, some inspirations, but I kinda want to go and like who are like some artists, you guys really look up to. I've like looked through your artists playlist a few times. King Krule definitely came to mind when I was listening to music a lot. And definitely, I love him. He's awesome. So if you guys kind of want to go into some of the inspirations for you,

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 33:28
He's always been cool. It's really funny. I have spent an unhealthy amount of minutes listening to that guy. But to be honest, I really don't listen to him that much anymore. I mean, every now and then, but he's definitely nowhere near my main inspiration at the moment. He used to be a big one, but my favorite band is spirit of the beehive. You can probably if you listen to this band, you will probably be like, ah, yeah, that's your definitely. I also really like this band from the 90s called the swirlies. And I just like a lot of experimental and hardcore stuff. I really liked the Deftones. Shout out to They Are Getting A Body Of Water. The acronym is TAGBOW. Shout out to Doug was still Garyun from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I met him playing a show in Cat's Cradle. That guy isn't a huge inspiration to me. He's only still on the come up to but he has some very good stuff. He had an album that just came out yesterday or the day before. So they are getting a body of water. This release. Yeah, I can go on for a long time. I might come up with more. I'll just interrupt.

Luca Morena 34:53
Sure. All right. We have a lot like Stan y Dengy and me personally have a lot of inspirations I could start with like, the typical Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Strokes a lot. And then you go into more the weird stuff, which would be like for example, um, L'imperatrice. I love French music, but L'imperatrice. Daft Punk, very funky band, Parcels, as I've mentioned is one of my favorite bands of all time, their sound is just, they were so Daft Punk found these guys in Australia five guys and basically taught them everything. So it's this people don't know this, but parcels are the effect of Daft Punk. And we all know what happened with Daft Punk like I think it was a year ago when they just posted this video show them exploding. It was amazing. And now Parcels is on the rise. I saw them live, it was the best day of my life. And one of the biggest probably the biggest influence for Stan y Dengy right now, and for me, is a Venezuelan band called Rawayana. These guys do they started with a lot of Latin, reggae, but their sound has just revolutionized into this crazy just like it's very organic.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 36:14
I like hearing the music scene in Venezulea

Luca Morena 36:16
Yes, they actually are it's it's insane. Like their latest album. It's called ___. I cannot pronounce that for some reason, was released last year and it's amazing. It's just amazing.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 36:30
Their style does it from Venezuela.

Luca Morena 36:32
That is true hardcore ban. Also carrying the Venezuelan name.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 36:37
Neon Indian, Palm, Standing On The Corner.

Castle (Rayna) 36:41
Is this a few thinking of more inspirations?

Sidd Ekkad 36:45
I love standing on the corner. He does a lot of great production.

Luca Morena 36:51
And yeah, I think that's pretty much it. Well, you got I mean, Bob Marley.

Sidd Ekkad 36:55
Marley has always been his musical.

Luca Morena 36:59
We are. Delta Sleep is so good. Alex got me into Delta Sleep. I didn't even know what Math Rock was.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 37:07
I'm so sorry. One more. Band called Pretend they make like one record every like five years. They're from like, somewhere in western California. And it's amazing. It's like a Math Rock-Jazz fusion type thing and they're, they're amazing. Please look,

Luca Morena 37:24
I'm also gonna mention HomeShake. Now. Reina shoot.

Castle (Rayna) 37:30
Okay. Thank you very much appreciate it. So I listened to anything and everything pretty much my inspirations for my musical style. That's like what I mentioned earlier, mostly Julian Baker. Beach Fossils. Huge for me love Beach Fossils. Beach House is another great one. I know that's those are the only two beach names I promise it's not a theme. But outside of my genre. I love ceza one of my favorite artists in the world, I picked her up. Like if someone truly was like, you have three seconds to recite all of the words of any song I'm just gonna hit shuffle on an album, it would be CTRL for sure. And Stevie Nicks is my idol. If I could be anyone else in the world, and I'm pretty okay being myself like I'm comfortable being myself. But if I could be anyone else got it would be her. She's insane. And Fleetwood Mac is crazy the way that they changed the face of rock and made it so much more digestible for the public, which I feel like wasn't really super introduced by like the hair bands. Like you sort of had to feel like a little bit of an outcast understand rock, and they sort of changed that perspective. In my mind mainstream. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I've made it made rock a genre where it's like, your parents like your grandparents like it your kids, like instead of just oh, well, these weird, crazy teenagers just obsessed with this metal sound? No, it wasn't that it was, you know, something digestible? For more broader public.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 38:57
Some more Christian, wholesome audience.

Castle (Rayna) 38:59
Yeah, I was trying to avoid saying that. But I'll let you have that one. You're not wrong.

So yeah, just plenty of influences that I could think of. But those are the biggest Stevie Nicks and says, I'll give it up for them.

Sidd Ekkad 39:15
Yeah, I need to get more into Fleetwood Mac. I never thought about them in terms of like a transitional era in terms of rock. I'm still pretty like new to rock. So that's, that's actually really interesting. I'll definitely think about that. Yeah, as for the rest, I need to like put these all on a list somewhere because these all sound like fantastic.

Luca Morena 39:31
Most of the names are really small, which is good because that means you can go to their shows when they're small. And those are the best shows.

Castle (Rayna) 39:39
Exactly. We're looking for $30 tickets or less. Okay.

Luca Morena 39:43
I saw Parcels front row center. The next day they made a post. I'm in all of the pictures in the front screaming

Sidd Ekkad 39:54
Out there, reppin.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 39:56
2022 March.

Sidd Ekkad 40:00
These are the I'm definitely putting all these on my list. I had a I've had my own Beach Fossils for some time, but like I never wanted, I wanted to like, the way I listen to music. It's like, I want to wait. I want to like get into like all the foundational texts and then get into the deeper stuff. So I was just like getting I get my own way all the time before like getting into the conversation.

Castle (Rayna) 40:17
The best way to fix that it's just set yourself up. We only got a couple of months left to the year. So it's perfect time to do this. Set yourself up for an album a day. Oh, yeah, just make a list way ahead of time. It's very hard to do. I was not successful this year. But it did. I probably listened to at least 20 albums a month. And I'll just listen to it top down. Because I'm personally I don't know about you guys. But I believe that artists arrange their albums in that way, for a reason. It's for a reason. So if you're gonna listen to an album, for the first time, you got to start from scratch. You gotta start from the top. Do it that way.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 40:51
I started doing that not too long ago, where I if I really liked a song that is just a single I don't really know this artist, I just listened to the album where that song is. And I found so like, I could talk for hours.

Castle (Rayna) 41:05
It's where the gems are. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, not every good song is a single and that tends to get forgotten.

Sidd Ekkad 41:10
Album cuts are underrated. Exactly. Yeah, exactly

Luca Morena 41:13
how I got into Homeshake, how I got into Rawayana. Yeah, at the start, actually, which is like my main influences now, which is pretty crazy.

Sidd Ekkad 41:23
Yeah, no, I definitely. But yeah, I completely agree album cuts most underrated, there's definitely, I think the whole idea of like, intentionally tracklisting I feel like you guys all very much integrate that into your music as well. So it's good to see that. Like, that's not a dying art. That's not something that's gone anytime soon. It's going to be around for a while.

Castle (Rayna) 41:40
That's very relevant with Alex's albums. Both of them. Yeah.

Sidd Ekkad 41:44
So kind of moving into some more questions. This is going to be a lot more broad, but like 47 Eyes On Me has been like a really great especially with like, all the new artists and like, I kind of want to talk about like, what is it like having like a network of these reliable peers to like work alongside even like, beyond all three of you just like

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 42:02
this is you got to you guys got to interview like some of the other artists before his eyes on me, because I'm not I'm not the best person to ask about that. Because I'm probably the most independent artist on the record label. In terms of like, I just refuse.

Castle (Rayna) 42:17
Yeah, so it's true.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 42:20
But yeah, it's definitely very, extremely helpful. I'm sure that most of what I've done would not be possible without that kind of huge Foundation. We are we a little revolutionary. In here, we share a lot of our money. We have a bank account for record labels and cool things to like. And we share each other's like technology, we share sound boards and all kinds of recording spaces, recording spaces, which it's it's, there's so much sharing going on. And it's like that's it exponentially increases, like what you can do in a certain amount of time. So that's, that's, I think, the main thing with 47 Eyes On Me, and especially with like, I think, I'm not trying to like say, oh, you should be grateful but like, I'm sure it is very nice for like the rappers to have instrumentalists at their disposal. And I'm sure it's very good for instrumentalists to have vocalists at their disposal, because it's not beyond just like artists boundaries. We all help each other out in different small ways. When it comes to the music production aspect. So yeah, yeah, that's great.

Luca Morena 43:33
Yeah, the gear part is important because music gear is really expensive. And good music gear is insanely expensive.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 43:39
Yeah, everyone gets paid equally as well for like,

Castle (Rayna) 43:42
there's no hierarchy. It's a team of equals, which is really comforting.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 43:46
Yeah, your decision is like voted on.

Castle (Rayna) 43:49
Yeah, yeah, we talked about everything. So with, even down to whenever we're thinking about inviting a new member, like we just had KATA Global join us. All of us were asked for our input and how we felt about that no one's opinion was left out. And of course, we were more than excited to have him join us. But still that just like something that we feel so obvious, like, of course, we want another talented artists to join the ranks. Like we're still respected in that way, which is great. So you could summarize it pretty easily working with 47, we're blessed.

Luca Morena 44:21
Everyone has an equal spot in there. Ya know, like, it doesn't matter if you just play one instrument and go to a show a month. You're still like your voices heard. If you need help, like, it's amazing when you started sending things we didn't really use I mean, really didn't know anyone. We're like, oh, this can you do second percussion? Do you ever go like the bases? We got him right? And I was like, Yo, we're gonna Can you do a bulk? Or she was like, Yeah, of course. And we just came together like that. There was like an, since it's the same people, it's kind of weird, but at the same time, it's just functions perfectly. These are my only friends. I know them better than any like at this point. Yeah.

Castle (Rayna) 44:58
Well, yeah, we're together five, six nights out of the week. I mean, we put in actually 10 hours of rehearsal a week,

Luca Morena 45:07
Like every day, yes, literally every day.

Castle (Rayna) 45:09
Yeah. and we rehearse upwards of 10 hours a week. And I mean, for most bands in our position, that's a huge time commitment. Yeah. I mean, we were splitting up between two bands most of the time, so it doesn 't feel like that much. But we spend a lot of time in Isa's garage, that's for sure.

Luca Morena 45:26
The Milky Way. AKA the Milky Way, almost three years old.

Castle (Rayna) 45:29
That's our safe place.

Sidd Ekkad 45:32
That's great. No, like, That's awesome that like you guys, especially like, I never really thought about like, gear is really that expensive. Like, you can't just be like buying it left, right, like, and it's like, I didn't know like, it really does go that deep. And even like, the fact that no one really goes outspoken is like, like, like trying to basically put aside like ego or like anything like, that would be a crux like putting that aside, like accounting for that. That's awesome.

Castle (Rayna) 45:56
Ego doesn't have a place with us. You know, if you're talented, and you're willing to put in as much work as you're able then shoot, you get to meet Waka Flocka Flame.

Luca Morena 46:06
Exactly. And there's artists within the label that are more successful than others, not because they are better, just because that's the nature of it. And that doesn't really change anything, either.

Castle (Rayna) 46:16
You know, and that can always change. And there's always a door open for every single one of us. Exactly.

Sidd Ekkad 46:21
Well, that's, that's great to see. That's also really like healthy mindset going into this industry, like emphasizing the creative process, rather than like, success or like anything along those lines. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. That's, that's already a great foundation. Yeah. And so kind of moving into like, now some, like hypotheticals and like some fun stuff. If you collaborate with anyone like, like, even like high mainstream, most famous, like, who would you want to collaborate with? I know, it's like an intimidating question asked, but like, who is like, everyone leaning back? You're thinking?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 46:56
I'd really like to do something with like, Animal Collective or something? Or like a jazz band? I actually want to Yeah, yeah. The atmospheric element to like that kind of rock, if you toned it down a little bit, remove some of the hardcore elements. And you add jet like, like I was saying, like standing on the corner, you had like, some saxophone? Shout out to our saxophone assigned us. It just sounds very good. That's one of the elements that I was like, from King Krule that I'm inspired by is that jazz, kind of experimental rock fusion is a big thing. So yeah.

Luca Morena 47:41
I think I would like Stan y Dengy to collaborate with L'imperatrice, which is this French band that I had mentioned, their layout is really interesting. I believe the six people and two of them are on keys. They have like each six keys, like crazy instruments is mugs and synthesizers and their sound is just so different. And like, that's something that we don't have right now, mainly because we don't have the instruments. We don't have the knowledge on that because synthesizers are such complex instruments, but I think like, like doing a mesh between those sounds, then and then gaming, but at least with these, like, it's really fun of the crazy 80s Like, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of words to describe it, but I cannot find a single one right now. So awesome. Just listen to their lives. And you'll see what I'm talking I need to listen, I'm

Sidd Ekkad 48:32
Literally putting that out down the list for sure.

Castle (Rayna) 48:34
So I don't even know if I need a collab from these people. But to sit down in a room with some of like the heavyweights of the producing world like to sit down with Mark Ronson, or Jack Antonoff. I love Jack Antonoff. And just hear about what they do on a day to day basis or like have a writing session with them. Oh my gosh, I feel like that would be life changing. I could only dream of meeting either of them. Those would probably be the only two people where I was like jaw on the floor starstruck, I can't believe I'm looking at you right now. Because they have worked for everyone and been so successful in so many different styles of music, and that's something that I appreciate a lot like some way who has the skill to Alright, so I'm going to help produce this cute little Robin Thicke song that really has no content to it whatsoever. And then simultaneously producing some of Lourdes like most devastating Heartbreaking Work just within like a few years. So yeah, love those guys really respect what they do. I would love to be on that level at some point.

Sidd Ekkad 49:40
That's all that's great. Yeah, those are like those guys are like so fluid with like, the type of work they'd be doing especially what you just mentioned right there. I think with a what Jack Antonoff my first exposure to him was Bleachers. And so that really blew my mind when I realized because he was just Bleachers guy to me for like the longest time Yeah. And then he was like, Oh, actually, he's done production for Clauro. And Lorde, I like all these people. And I'm like, wow, like,

Castle (Rayna) 50:06
He's just probably one of the coolest people that's ever worked in the music industry, no big deal.

Sidd Ekkad 50:12
And, ya know, that's awesome that you guys have like, so many like diversified palettes and like, where you guys would want to take these like sounds like further and like to like collaborate? I hope this like actually, some of these become like realities, hopefully, at some point, for sure. And then I'm now just, we're gonna kind of wrap it up a little bit, but the you guys have been on the live performance way for quite a while now. So like, what have those been like? And is there anything you guys have in mind future wise, for like the aesthetic or the execution of them that you'd maybe want to incorporate into the future one,

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 50:44
We play pretty loud. Again, we play a lot like a good share of hardcore songs for most of our sets. And a lot of the people that come to our shows, that's like the first exposure, they've had to like, mild, hardcore atmospheric stuff. Because it's a lot of really young people and stuff like that. And taking it all the more further would be. Yeah, my pleasure. Honestly, I, when I first started, like, making stuff like a couple of years ago, I was like, oh, I want to like, wear all kinds of crazy stuff. I mean, like, you know, like costumes and stuff. We're about to do that at a Halloween show at school kids records in a couple of Fridays from now. Actually, no, it's October 29th.

Castle (Rayna) 51:36
It's on October 29.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 51:39
It's a Halloween show

Luca Morena 51:40
with Day & Dream, the band that we played with yesterday. And I would recommend that you go to that show.

Castle (Rayna) 51:46
Yes, our advice is to be there.

Sidd Ekkad 51:48
Oh, yeah. I'll be there.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 51:51
Everyone will be like wearing a costume. It'll be very strange. Really fun. Yeah. So yeah, definitely. I need to get better at like integrating like a lot of technology last night was one of the only shows that we played where I had to manage like a computer as well as my board and everything. So yeah, but we'll get better at it through time.

Luca Morena 52:14
Yeah, I think are one of the things that has improved a lot. Since we've played our first show is your stage presence. Because we so now we, I can say we feel more than music when we're playing. We look really stupid up in stage, just jumping around and screaming and it's really funny to watch. And we're just having fun. Yeah, we were just like expressing the music with with with how we feel. And not only for Saturnalias. It's, it's more for Saturnalias. And Stan y Dengy as well, and it's really fun when you're playing a song, and everyone's jumping to it. It's a great feeling.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 52:53
We'll dp very spontaneous stuff. Sometimes.

Luca Morena 52:56
We are changes and yes. Just go to the shows. Yeah. And about that. We have a show this Friday. Yes, you can see it on Saturnalias's Instagram.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 53:08
Find out about that show by looking at our social media at Saturnalias 6669 on Instagram. Pretty soon we will. October 21, it's a house show. It's free, donation suggested.

Castle (Rayna) 53:24
That was so calculated you were so precise with it. We're talking stage presence. Honestly, it feels like our whole dynamic changed when we brought in our basist, Ethan. Ethan, Alex and I met him also in the same jazz class. That jazz class was monumental for the structure of Saturnalias for sure. But no, I was just stuck with Alex.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 53:55
You can definitely goes wild on stage he does around and like he might break his neck.

Castle (Rayna) 54:00
He is our stage presence inspiration. Like he really does not care. He said what else is happening in the room? That man is going to jump.

Sidd Ekkad 54:09
That's awesome. Yeah, yeah.

Castle (Rayna) 54:12
What were we talking about? Oh, we were

Sidd Ekkad 54:17
like, no, like, I think like, there's I think like having fun and like going crazy. I think like, being able to like rile up an audience is like awesome, I think.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 54:26
Very used and underrated part of live performance. It's like, I don't know, I've seen a lot of shows. And it's just like, why are you playing if you're not gonna do something exactly. Yeah. Like that. You got to do something. You're gonna remember. It is something we're gonna remember. Yeah.

Castle (Rayna) 54:44
And it's something that truly got better as we became more friends with each other than just co workers. And I mean, that happened pretty fast. But we've been going at this for 10 months now. Yeah, yeah.

Luca Morena 54:57
Yeah, a year actually. For these For me and Isa it was like I think at the start of November.

Castle (Rayna) 55:03
It's gonna be a fun day. We've gone through a lot of change in a year. It's been a lot of progress, especially in performing in a year. Yeah. And for me personally, I came into the situation with stage fright. The reason why I got off stage in the first place. Why I left doing chorus was because I can't stand singing in front of people.

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 55:23
Now we're playing three Shows a week.

Castle (Rayna) 55:27
Well, we are, we did play three shows this week. We are not putting three shows every week.

Luca Morena 55:35
No, it's It's crazy. It's been crazy.

Sidd Ekkad 55:37
Yeah, come a long way. That's awesome. Yeah. I can't leave. It's not even been a year like when you said 10 months, I was like, Oh my gosh, you guys are like at this for like a while now.

Castle (Rayna) 55:46
Honestly, every time we remember that it's only been months of our lives. We're kind of like, That's ridiculous. No new people for way too long.

Sidd Ekkad 55:55
And then just to kind of wrap it up. Last question. What do you guys kind of have planned like future album wise, project-wise? What are we like? What is the visions going forward?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 56:06
So I finished the last album. And I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna like not write anything for at least a year after this. But that's such cap. Or you want to like make another project. So I'll probably, honestly have one next year. So you can probably look for that. At some point within about a year's time. I'm getting the itch. Yeah, I don't, I know that I'm definitely we're probably going to start playing with some with some some fans that have been playing for a while soon. Like, Truth Club, shout out to Truth Club, we are planning on maybe doing a show with them at some point next year. They sound I think they sound very good. Live as well. They're good live performance. So that's really it, though, that I've had that thought of so.

Luca Morena 57:02
Yeah, and for the future. Um, at least we're standing at the independent project, we released a single, I think it was March. It's called 101 FM. It's not our best work, but it's the best that we had at the time. And since then, we found like six or seven originals that are very complex and very developed and have seven or eight instruments in them. And so we just have to get recording it's not been easy because we have shows and we got school and two bands. Three now with when we're going to do a set for a walk of ago. But that's our plan right now for you send me send and then he's just getting recording, getting in the studio, get all that stuff out. And the quality of work is has got to be the best that we can ever do. Because we sound good live, but to translate that into studio, it takes a lot of work and gear and you know that skill.

Sidd Ekkad 57:59
That's perfect. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I look forward to seeing more of that. I know you guys like have like a few singles out right now but look forward to

Luca Morena 58:05
That is, I'm really excited for that. I think people are really gonna because we play some shows before and people go up to me and they're like, Wow, that last original you played I need that right now. And I get that all the time. And I'm like I know bro it's not easy and for Alex is a little bit easier because his well we already talked about his process. And we just play the music is just in his room eight hours a day, but we need help from keyboards. We need bass. We need sax. We need live drums and the second percussion for a man and it's cherry on top for Stan y Dengy.

Castle (Rayna) 58:48
Well, that's good to hear. Yeah, so yeah, I think the band as a whole has their sights set on 2023 You see anything he's gonna have projects. I guess Alex is gonna do another he's gonna drop another single in like two months. I mean, that's his third project. I couldn't imagine but honestly, can't wait to play it exactly. And for me to I need to graduate, that's what I need to do. And then after that is going to be focused on music, and I'm hoping by this time next year, I have at least an EP out.

Sidd Ekkad 59:21
Alright, that's great. Um, I look forward to all these projects and seeing where you guys go. So I think we're gonna wrap it up right now but this is Sidd with WKNC and I am here today with

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 59:34
Saturdalius

Luca Morena 59:34
Luca

Castle (Rayna) 59:35
and Rayna!

Sidd Ekkad 59:36
Do you guys want to plug your socials real quick?

Saturnalias (Alex Tsung) 59:39
It's @Saturnalias6669 on Instagram

Luca Morena 59:43
You can find Stan y Dengy @stanydengy with a Y on Instagram, we got Tik Tok. We got Spotify everywhere.

Castle (Rayna) 59:51
And I'm the star of both of those bands. So I'm tagged on both of those accounts. You can find me there.

Sidd Ekkad 59:58
Alright everybody, catch you soon.

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